cubaricho Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Not sure it’s a good idea for me to continue this line of argument I was going to jump in to defend you, because I see what you’re getting at and I think you’re totally right that there should be more parity between all of the Newcastle fans having a crack at tickets, but I don’t want to put my head above the trench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I mean there's plenty of talk about making things more equal but there doesn't seem to be any alternative suggestions to how they're doing it? Other than a completely random ballot for all 'Newcastle' fans? 'Newcastle' in inverted commas because it's bound to attract touts and people who have no desire to go, just wanting to sell for a profit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, joeyt said: I mean there's plenty of talk about making things more equal but there doesn't seem to be any alternative suggestions to how they're doing it? Other than a completely random ballot for all 'Newcastle' fans? 'Newcastle' in inverted commas because it's bound to attract touts and people who have no desire to go, just wanting to sell for a profit Sure, very valid points. Don’t want to ruin the cup thread any more TBH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Scoreboard82 said: Not convinced there is tbh. I don't see them depriving someone with higher eligibility criteria to hold some back. nor should they tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, joeyt said: I mean ideally and philosophically you'd be able to quantify everybody's loyalty and the most loyal/deserving fans would get the tickets But the only quantifying way to do that is through season tickets and ticket history. I'm not sure what else the club could have done or could do in the future? I reckon it should be a complicated equation of time spent online on here, number of posts, number of likes per posts (since we moved over to this forum),time spent banned, amount of warnings received, amount of grammatical errors (to honour Dave) and amount of " "s received. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, joeyt said: I mean ideally and philosophically you'd be able to quantify everybody's loyalty and the most loyal/deserving fans would get the tickets But the only quantifying way to do that is through season tickets and ticket history. I'm not sure what else the club could have done or could do in the future? exactly. we all love the club but it’s natural that those who have put the most money through the till will be rewarded (I appreciate those who boycotted because of ashley might now be disadvantaged but I’d guess a lot if these will know enough people to source tickets anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 tomorrow will be carnage as most people from pots 1 and 2 (like me) will be in trying to get through to book groups. i dont think the club thought this through properly. monday and tuesday were relatively quiet and easy to log in and book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, huss9 said: tomorrow will be carnage as most people from pots 1 and 2 (like me) will be in trying to get through to book groups. i dont think the club thought this through properly. monday and tuesday were relatively quiet and easy to log in and book. Brian Blessed and Charlotte were consulted and said it was ok .. so you can’t completely blame the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, joeyt said: I mean ideally and philosophically you'd be able to quantify everybody's loyalty and the most loyal/deserving fans would get the tickets But the only quantifying way to do that is through season tickets and ticket history. I'm not sure what else the club could have done or could do in the future? Loyalty, though, is meaningless in the context of ‘supporting’ the club. It’s not as if I’m going to change who I support - I’m from Newcastle. Other options are not available. Those who, unlike me, didn’t stop going in the Ashley years and have the ST & points should absolutely be front of the queue - and if there’s no tickets left when they’ve had their chance, that’s absolutely fair too. Sitting on my arse watching every game on telly isn’t the same commitment to the club and its coffers as going home and away each week - and the tyranny of distance now that I don’t live in the UK isn’t a just reason to feel hard done by, either. Cup finals should be the reward for those lads and lasses who go week-in week-out, not a jolly day out for those who weren’t there the rest of the time - which includes me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, OCOCOL said: Brian Blessed and Charlotte were consulted and said it was ok .. so you can’t completely blame the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, huss9 said: tomorrow will be carnage as most people from pots 1 and 2 (like me) will be in trying to get through to book groups. i dont think the club thought this through properly. monday and tuesday were relatively quiet and easy to log in and book. You’ve a whole 22 hours ? You’ll be fine. There looks around 25K tickets left and they ain’t running out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Loyalty, though, is meaningless in the context of ‘supporting’ the club. It’s not as if I’m going to change who I support - I’m from Newcastle. Other options are not available. Those who, unlike me, didn’t stop going in the Ashley years and have the ST & points should absolutely be front of the queue - and if there’s no tickets left when they’ve had their chance, that’s absolutely fair too. Sitting on my arse watching every game on telly isn’t the same commitment to the club and its coffers as going home and away each week - and the tyranny of distance now that I don’t live in the UK isn’t a just reason to feel hard done by, either. Cup finals should be the reward for those lads and lasses who go week-in week-out, not a jolly day out for those who weren’t there the rest of the time - which includes me. There's definitely an argument to be made that those who kept their season tickets after Rafa left should be right back of the queue mind. Obviously that would never happen, but there is a question to be made who were the most loyal to the club at that point, the fan who kept the ST or the one that gave it up. 0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, LFEE said: You’ve a whole 22 hours ? You’ll be fine. There looks around 25K tickets left and they ain’t running out. nah it was just getting 4 together. we'll all get tickets no probs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Any last requests on info on a particular block before I log off? You’ve a few mins… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, huss9 said: nah it was just getting 4 together. we'll all get tickets no probs. Also since P1 finished I’ve noted in P2 you have to buy seats very end of row if buying just 1 ticket to help larger groups stay together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: Also since P1 finished I’ve noted in P2 you have to buy seats very end of row if buying just 1 ticket to help larger groups stay together. that was infuriating when buying cup tickets at sjp. youd pick a load of seats together then it wont et u buy them if u leave a single one next to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 SO FUCKING EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, LFEE said: Also since P1 finished I’ve noted in P2 you have to buy seats very end of row if buying just 1 ticket to help larger groups stay together. My mate raised this point when we were discussing as to whether we should enter the ballot on Saturday together or individually. I said individually, but he made the point that the NUFC ticket website doesn’t like leaving single tickets, and maybe we should enter together. In reality it’s impossible to know what would give a better chance but I’m sick of thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Danh1 said: My mate raised this point when we were discussing as to whether we should enter the ballot on Saturday together or individually. I said individually, but he made the point that the NUFC ticket website doesn’t like leaving single tickets, and maybe we should enter together. In reality it’s impossible to know what would give a better chance but I’m sick of thinking about it. I can always check after P3 is finished to see how it’s looking for you with regards to pairs then you can decide from there ??♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, LFEE said: I can always check after P3 is finished to see how it’s looking for you with regards to pairs then you can decide from there ??♂️ Cheers LFEE, would appreciate that. Be glad when next Tuesday is over and everyone can start looking forward to the occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 For those undecided where to sit who’ve never been to Wembley before. Pretty neat… https://www.wembleystadium.com/plan-your-visit/stadium-guide/view-from-your-seat Good luck and goodnight ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 @LFEEyou should really be stood outside wembley before kick off as a guide/help for us going off here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, huss9 said: @LFEEyou should really be stood outside wembley before kick off as a guide/help for us going off here. it’s outrageous that those of us who’ve been will have watched Whitley bay or North Shields. But looking to the positives they both win their finals. Howayyy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Nobody said: There's definitely an argument to be made that those who kept their season tickets after Rafa left should be right back of the queue mind. Obviously that would never happen, but there is a question to be made who were the most loyal to the club at that point, the fan who kept the ST or the one that gave it up. 0 Yes, I’d certainly have more sympathy there it has to be said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yes, I’d certainly have more sympathy there it has to be said Well, to have the discussion, people who kept on their ticket after Rafa left probably did it because they just go to the match whatever. Lots of people are apolitical in general, lots of people encounter politics a lot in their daily lives and like to keep football as purely a recreational thing. I don’t see that as any more questionable than people who decided to stick it then but want to come back now that we’re owned by morally reprehensible people with pots of cash. (I have no doubt that people on this forum that actively campaigned against Ashley would be back whoever bought it, but does that extend to the wider fanbase? I have asked the question before: Say we got some hedge fund dude, or some Serbian businessman without a Wikipedia page, would the queue for season tickets last June have been at the thirty thousand people it was? What if we had been relegated?) Put another way: What about somebody who had their season ticket for thirty years, up until 2021, but didn’t want to keep it because of issues with our new owners. Could you not argue they deserve their day out at Wembley? Edited February 8, 2023 by Hovagod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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