AC Milan 0-0 Newcastle United (19/09/23)

[Shadow Puppets]

1 hour ago, Mattoon said:

I'll say one thing, I felt like the game was going a lot better when I just watched it and didn't follow it on here

I truly believe there is something very badly wrong with the reactions of many people on this forum.
 

In the flesh, apart from 25 mins in the first half, that felt to me like a very pleasing performance. Would I have liked more attacking threat? Yeah of course. But in person, the San Siro is an immense atmosphere (far out shadows anything I’ve seen at St James’) so to come away with a solid 65 mins of football and a draw is something to be really proud of.

[Pata]

1 hour ago, 54 said:

 

 

It's like 3.5-4km walk ffs.  TWO HOURS!

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Pata

[Irish Magpie]

Ok, my honest opinion. Absolutely delighted with a point away at the San Siro against last years semi-finalists in the CL.

 

I think some of our players were a little pressurised in the circumstance of the game and never really settled. No real complaints though about any of them.

 

That said, as much as I love Burn and Pope I would love a keeper who was good with his feet as Pope is saving shots, It seems so important these days. And I really would like a left back with genuine recovery pace and positional sense. No disrespect to Burn but he can both be slow and caught out of poition (recovery wise-linked to pace I guess).

 

Hopefully the capture of Lewis Hall solves that sooner than later...

 

Think it was a great result tbh, one point on the board (away from home in Europe) means we can't be adrift at the bottom of the group. Onward and upwards boys...

[OCOCOL]

2 hours ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Couldn't give a flying fuck about the performance tonight. Good result and just loads of fun to be part of again.

yeah it’s unbelievable to read some of what’s been posted on here and elsewhere. Not just tonight btw. 
 

im not saying Howe or the team are above criticism but howay remember where we were 2 years ago to the day. 
 

to anyone whose not experienced this before enjoy it. And if you can go, go. We had already booked up for psg but have decided tonight to drive to Dortmund and booked accommodation in Bochum (ibis) a couple of us have 400 points plus but the other lads will just watch in bars. 

[Pata]

11 minutes ago, Rod said:

It just shows the progress we have made in such a short space of time that some fans are disappointed with a draw away to AC Milan.

 

I don't think there are many who are disappointed with the result, just the performance. If we had lost that match 2-0 or 3-0 (like the xG indicated) with that same performance there would be people calling for Howe's head. 

[Gawalls]

16 minutes ago, Rod said:

It just shows the progress we have made in such a short space of time that some fans are disappointed with a draw away to AC Milan.

We have fans that would be disappointed if we won the CL final by 1 - 0 as they’d say it wasn’t convincing enough.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Pata said:

 

I don't think there are many who are disappointed with the result, just the performance. If we had lost that match 2-0 or 3-0 (like the xG indicated) with that same performance there would be people calling for Howe's head. 

I don’t think people would be calling for his head. My analysis of the match doesn’t change considerably because of the result.  Had Leao scored his header late on  - Schar, Bruno, Botman, Pope still had great games. And we still looked susceptible defensively whenever Milan could string a few passes together. 

[Pata]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

I don’t think people would be calling for his head. My analysis of the match doesn’t change considerably because of the result.  Had Leao scored his header late on  - Schar, Bruno, Botman, Pope still had great games. And we still looked susceptible defensively whenever Milan could string a few passes together. 

Obviously not the majority but few lost souls who are now praising this result.

[Shadow Puppets]

4 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

I don't think there are many who are disappointed with the result, just the performance. If we had lost that match 2-0 or 3-0 (like the xG indicated) with that same performance there would be people calling for Howe's head. 

Well then whoever those people are are fucking idiots.

 

Every NUFC fan in that stadium tonight came away thinking that was overall a very positive night. It was the San Siro against one of the best teams in the world in one of the hardest atmospheres in the world. Of course we would be under the cosh for large portions of the game… we’re fundamentally not as good as them and lack their experience of the big stage.

 

What we showed was a really dogged performance, especially second half. Be fucking proud.

 

 

[Gawalls]

6 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:

yeah it’s unbelievable to read some of what’s been posted on here and elsewhere. Not just tonight btw. 
 

im not saying Howe or the team are above criticism but howay remember where we were 2 years ago to the day. 
 

to anyone whose not experienced this before enjoy it. And if you can go, go. We had already booked up for psg but have decided tonight to drive to Dortmund and booked accommodation in Bochum (ibis) a couple of us have 400 points plus but the other lads will just watch in bars. 

Unfortunately there was a lot of people that predicted this last year saying if we didn’t do it again then some would go into meltdown. We’re a victim of our own success in that way. The start of this season was always going to test us but now we’re through the worst we just need to push on and pick up momentum.

[Pata]

1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Well then whoever those people are are fucking idiots.

 

Every NUFC fan in that stadium tonight came away thinking that was overall a very positive night. It was the San Siro against one of the best teams in the world in one of the hardest atmospheres in the world. Of course we would be under the cosh for large portions of the game… we’re fundamentally not as good as them and lack their experience of the big stage.

 

What we showed was a really dogged performance, especially second half. Be fucking proud.

 

 

Because we got a point. Same performance but a loss and 100% guarantee there would be people telling you how Howe got schooled at the big stage and might have reached his limit.

 

I’m very happy with the point and proud of the fight and determination shown by the team but still think it was a really poor performance. We lose that match 8-9 times out of 10 despite the odds being pretty much even before the match had started.

[Bally21]

I'm going to bed a happy man. Job done. On we go. HWTFL.

[madras]

Very happy with a point. For all they had the better of it their chances were largely from distance or straight at Pope, its not like he had to make a worldie at any point. I really only think the Leao brain fart was a nailed on goal that wasn't.

 

While I'm on has Loftus Cheek ever been booked ? Is he allowed to just foul and foul and foul and foul ( we counted 8 blatants)  without being booked.

[Shadow Puppets]

2 minutes ago, Pata said:

Because we got a point. Same performance but a loss and 100% guarantee there would be people telling you how Howe got schooled at the big stage and might have reached his limit.

 

I’m very happy with the point and proud of the fight and determination shown by the team but still think it was a really poor performance. We lose that match 8-9 times out of 10 despite the odds being pretty much even before the match had started.

Poor performance for 25 mins, I agree. The rest of the game was a dogged, solid display on the biggest stage.

 

Though even in those 25 mins, I thought most of Milan’s chances were speculative apart from the Giroud one and the stupid back heel one, and then a great save from Pope from the corner. So 3 good chances.

 

Again, I don’t know why it needs re-enforcing, but you’re talking about an away game at the San Siro, in that atmosphere, as if it’s an away game against Luton town.

 

Milan are fucking good. They were always going to get some good chances and they were always going to come out and try to rectify their poor performance at the weekend. Other than that 25 minute spell, and that header at the end, I genuinely believe it was an impressive defensive away performance from us, with obvious room for improvement in attack/possession.

[Shadow Puppets]

Meant to ask, what happened after the corner just before the final whistle went? For about 10 seconds it seemed like the ref was going to VAR?

[Pata]

7 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Poor performance for 25 mins, I agree. The rest of the game was a dogged, solid display on the biggest stage.

 

Though even in those 25 mins, I thought most of Milan’s chances were speculative apart from the Giroud one and the stupid back heel one, and then a great save from Pope from the corner. So 3 good chances.

 

Again, I don’t know why it needs re-enforcing, but you’re talking about an away game at the San Siro, in that atmosphere, as if it’s an away game against Luton town.

 

Milan are fucking good. They were always going to get some good chances and they were always going to come out and try to rectify their poor performance at the weekend. Other than that 25 minute spell, and that header at the end, I genuinely believe it was an impressive defensive away performance from us, with obvious room for improvement in attack/possession.

 

You're talking like we are Luton Town. 

 

I said many of the same things that you've said earlier, we were doing a decent job keeping them away from really good chances and improved on the second half. Just disappointed how we failed to create anything against a team that just shipped five goals couple of days ago. Hope it was just nerves and confident we look better at home.

[Pata]

3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Meant to ask, what happened after the corner just before the final whistle went? For about 10 seconds it seemed like the ref was going to VAR?

 

No idea, didn't see anything on the replays but something was going. Ref probably wasn't sure who handled the ball or something. Thought it was fair to not allow the second corner, Trippier took a ridiculously long time to take the first one and I was actually scared ref would blow it before the corner due to that.

[WinstonFC]

1 hour ago, Slim said:

Did you watch the Liverpool game?

Yea its alot easier to create against ten men

[Gallowgate Toon]

I see Craig Hope is straight back on with his Bruno/Tonali hot takes again. Seems to think Bruno played poorly which is bonkers to me.

 

Grown to really dislike him. He was one of the freaks yesterday who was asking about the plane delay and what the players did on the plane.

[WinstonFC]

41 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:

yeah it’s unbelievable to read some of what’s been posted on here and elsewhere. Not just tonight btw. 
 

im not saying Howe or the team are above criticism but howay remember where we were 2 years ago to the day. 
 

to anyone whose not experienced this before enjoy it. And if you can go, go. We had already booked up for psg but have decided tonight to drive to Dortmund and booked accommodation in Bochum (ibis) a couple of us have 400 points plus but the other lads will just watch in bars. 

It was a shite performance but an unbelievable point when you factor in our first european game in 2 decades, away game etc etc. However people need to stop with 'remember where were 2 years ago' stuff ffs. Thats in the past, team should be judged, criticised or praised on performances now. Weve created this high standard so we should be held to it. For whatever reason we just havent clicked offensively last few games. Defensively we are sound and another clean sheet is a massive plus. 

[McDog]

6 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

Yea its alot easier to create against ten men

 

Except we scored when they had 11 or do I not remember correctly?

 

Massive fuck up to lose all three points mind.

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

4 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

I see Craig Hope is straight back on with his Bruno/Tonali hot takes again. Seems to think Bruno played poorly which is bonkers to me.

 

Grown to really dislike him. He was one of the freaks yesterday who was asking about the plane delay and what the players did on the plane.

The season’s barely a month old.  Hope is one of those hacks who hounds people out of clubs, turning the narrative and then claiming innocence afterwards

[WinstonFC]

2 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

Except we scored when they had 11 or do I not remember correctly?

 

Massive fuck up to lose all three points mind.

 

 

We didnt create the goal tho, it was a liverpool fuck up that led to it. Didnt create much up until the sending off. As i said in previous post we just arent clicking offensively since the Villa game. Not sure what it is, really annoying but im sure we will figure it out. Full confidence in these players and management. 

[timnufc22]

I don’t think Bruno & Tonali are clicking though? Don’t see anything wrong with that assessment. For me it’s as much the system as individuals; without a designated & disciplined number 6, the midfield are played through and split open as a result. Especially on the counter. 
 

if it was me I’d be telling Tonali to sit, end of. No rotating positions, he’s playing deep, getting the ball off centre backs, picking passes, being sensible and reading the play in front of him when we don’t have it. Instead he’s playing higher up and keeps getting balls played in behind in and Loftus Cheek had the pace to beat him in a race.
 

Bruno dosent have the discipline or nous to snuff out the danger and we are then left exposed. 
 

Let Bruno & Longstaff make runs to support the forwards safe in the knowledge Tonali is sitting if we lose the ball. 

[Wolfcastle]

38 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Meant to ask, what happened after the corner just before the final whistle went? For about 10 seconds it seemed like the ref was going to VAR?

Think he was questioning whether it was a corner and if the keeper got a touch because a goal-kick was given initially - if were thinking about the same incident.