Optimistic Nut Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 If we'd signed Ameobi from a French club at 18, he'd have pottered about the bottom of Ligue 1/top of Ligue 2 most of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Strange thread this. I suspect people are misunderstanding the question being posed here...or maybe it's me but I interpret it as players who appeared or were shite or thereabouts when they started out or at first sight and you thought 'geez this guy's got no future' and then later whether it was down to experience, change of manager, scenery or club they turned out alright and had a decent career or even ended up at an elite club.... eg: Joselu There is a thread for the reverse of above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, MagSA said: I suspect people are misunderstanding the question being posed here...or maybe it's me but I interpret it as players who appeared or were shite or thereabouts when they started out or at first sight and you thought 'geez this guy's got no future' and then later whether it was down to experience, change of manager, scenery or club they turned out alright and had a decent career or even ended up at an elite club.... eg: Joselu There is a thread for the reverse of above. I read this as a sort of "how the fuck have they played 250 games at that level" thread myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: I read this as a sort of "how the fuck have they played 250 games at that level" thread myself. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: I read this as a sort of "how the fuck have they played 250 games at that level" thread myself. I would put Phil Neville in your thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Might add Richard Dunne Ashley Young Rory Delap Paul Konchesky All of the above are/were nothing spectacular, and rarely, if ever got anyone out their seat but they had decent careers. Rory was a throw in specialist though, probably the best at it there ever was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Ashley Youngs been a cracking player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Ashley Young!? He was absolutely class at Villa and he's had a brilliant career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Ashley Youngs been a cracking player. Your right. I was in two minds about him. think he scored a couple of cracking free kicks as well. I should apologize to him now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Someone will be mentioning Rooney soon, at this rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Declan Rice. I'm with Souness and Keane on this - he's a decent player but doesn't do enough to warrant his superstar status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 6 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Ashley Youngs been a cracking player. So he said, "yeah, what you ever done so don-". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 11 hours ago, Tiresias said: Frank Lampard. Sure he was very good goalscorer but the idea that constituted a good midfielder held england back for years... wtf is going on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: So he said, "yeah, what you ever done so don-". MagSA has thrown a kettle over a pub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Cronky said: Declan Rice. I'm with Souness and Keane on this - he's a decent player but doesn't do enough to warrant his superstar status. He's one I've always disagreed with, always thought he was top class. Levels above Phillips for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It's mad to me that there are people that still don't see it with Rice. I thought no one would have been in any doubt after he single handedly shut us down at home last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Declan Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Wayne Quinn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It does feel like people have pre-conceived biases towards certain players. Some who are/were genuinely world class and club/country legends. Then refusing to alter their opinions, despite mountains of evidence. Either that or people only watch us and MOTD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: Declan Rice. last year before his move I would spent way too much time thinking about how he would fit into our midfield and be the catalyst for a title challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Dennis Wise. I remember around the late 90s commentators would lap him up and say he was an inspiration to his team mates. His team mates were the likes of Vialli, Desailly, Di Matteo, etc. I really don't think they looked at him and thought, "shit, we better listen here, lads". Edited January 20 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Mike Hooper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Eric Dier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Ruben Rochina - another Blackburn mistake. About as prolific as wor shola and contributed to their relegation season. David N'Gog- Another one from a good academy so he must be good hype. Apostolos Vellios - Another greek failure in the prem. Chris Baird - Stuck around like a stinky fart at a number of shit clubs Jay Spearing / Sebastian Coates - both at Liverpool in their shaky years. Coates was perpetually shit. Spearing was a specimen. Fabio/Rafael - double headed shit dragon. Vernon Anita - probably looked good til everyone else hit puberty James Vaughan - spewing blood from his severed artery Mamady Sidebe - just a fucking unit Sebastian Larson - used to play for arsenal so must be good. Only useful for set pieces. Danny Rose - I have no idea what happened to him or why he just capitulated Franco di Santo - worse record than shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 zidane, platini, yashin, Moore, Pirlo imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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