andycap Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Ronaldo said: Nonsense. And 102 assists certainly says otherwise. He’d walk into any midfield we’ve had in the past 30 years and you know that. Isn't he chelsea record goalscorer aswell? You don't become that without been good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Berahino and Benteke spring to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Tiresias said: Frank Lampard. Sure he was very good goalscorer but the idea that constituted a good midfielder held england back for years... I’ll join you with that one. Chelsea’s team was set up to make the most of his strengths and hide his obvious weaknesses. It’s why he was painfully exposed in an England shirt. The question was always asked ‘why can’t Lampard and Gerrard play together?’ The answer was - they weren’t intelligent enough to do so, and neither should have been picked ahead of Paul Scholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Dummett O'Nien Tony Hibbert Benali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Jordan Ayew’s Palace stats are really poor for a player who starts up front for them as their #9. 20 goals in 199 Premier League appearances for Palace. A few weeks ago, he was the most fouled player in the PL, so I guess that’s what his role is but still, really poor stats considering nine of those goals were scored in his first season for them five years ago. Edited January 20 by Astroblack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 McShane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Colback, Hendrick, Rob Elliot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Albert Luque Diego Cardone At other clubs Thomas Brolin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 6 hours ago, tgarve said: Most of them have a lot of skill It's all on a scale. Eg I just as much can't believe Arbeloa played as many games as he did for Real Madrid, as I can't believe, I dunno, Peter Ramage played plenty of games for Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Chamakh - what even was he? A joke he got a move to palace Sanogo - arsenal obviously played football manager Salif Diallo - shows the danger of buying after a world cup Amdy Faye - An absolute turd footballer Tonev - Dunno what he did after but he was highly rated and produced fuck all. Ahmed Musa - signed by Leicester because? For a then record signing and was useless Mikoun - Villa must have been playing football manager. Cornelius - Was certainly a unit, but monumentally shit Leacock - Bit harsh but he was a member of that derby side and an absolute liability Gilberto - Spurs in their less able days. Absolute nothing player. Corrado Grabbi - Blackburns shearer replacement was beyond shit Mitrioglu - (Fulham) Highly rated , produced nothing. Van Wolfswinkel - Another football manager hype train failure Loads more like Tosun, Gibson, cleverly, mellor Lots of these are strikers. Guess it's more obvious if you fail there. Edited January 20 by La Parka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Eric Cantona. Brilliant in the PL against Oldham, Ipswich, Mackems etc on the Saturday but totally shite and anonymous on Wednesday nights in the CL against Milan, Barcelona etc. Completely over rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 8 hours ago, GEFAFWISP said: Paul Dummett. Harsh! limited player but worked hard and done a job. Rated by Rafa. Also still turning out some good performances (man u away this season) Actually he’s almost the opposite of this thread. Limited player who’s forged a career for himself through graft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, La Parka said: Chamakh - what even was he? A joke he got a move to palace Sanogo - arsenal obviously played football manager Salif Diallo - shows the danger of buying after a world cup Amdy Faye - An absolute turd footballer Tonev - Dunno what he did after but he was highly rated and produced fuck all. Ahmed Musa - signed by Leicester because? For a then record signing and was useless Mikoun - Villa must have been playing football manager. Cornelius - Was certainly a unit, but monumentally shit Leacock - Bit harsh but he was a member of that derby side and an absolute liability Gilberto - Spurs in their less able days. Absolute nothing player. Corrado Grabbi - Blackburns shearer replacement was beyond shit Mitrioglu - (Fulham) Highly rated , produced nothing. Van Wolfswinkel - Another football manager hype train failure Loads more like Tosun, Gibson, cleverly, mellor Lots of these are strikers. Guess it's more obvious if you fail there. A great list. Compelling and rich. IIRC though Musa was actually very good but couldn't get in ahead of Vardy. He just seemed to fade away. Edited January 20 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Think this thread is a bit all over the place when you see names like Lampard and Cantona being thrown about I guess it's all relative but I thought this would be for the likes of Colback, Hendrick etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 That Arsenal French lad bought for 72m. Pepe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Lee Bowyer.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, tgarve said: Bellingham? Of course there are brilliant players who have played for that team. I just thought Sancho thrives on all the space that you get as a strong counter-attacking team in that league. Looks like he doesn’t have the pace or skill to be dangerous in a better league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Joey Barton elite teams and a career coaching. Wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 8 hours ago, Tiresias said: Frank Lampard. Sure he was very good goalscorer but the idea that constituted a good midfielder held england back for years... Whaaat? I know he’s a thoroughly unlikeable bloke and everyone goes for Scholes, who gets better every year he’s been retired and Gerrard. When doing the English midfielder debate. But Lampard was a superb player. Got plenty of assists along with his goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Seeing Lampard and Chamakh in the same thread is crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, Menace said: Seeing Lampard and Chamakh in the same thread is crazy. TBF, that Chelsea team was built around him to make him look good for *checks notes* 13 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Berahino and Benteke spring to mind. Berahino was a funny one. He looked ok until we stuck in that bid for him. He then went to absolute shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Shola Ameobi - a striker who played at the highest level and managed 53 league goals in 312 appearances. Wasn't quick, didn't have great technique, wasn't a clinical finisher, couldn't dribble, wasn't particularly strong or have good links up play, wasn't good in the air, not skillful - no discernable quality which warranted the career he had. I can't explain this career at all. Edited January 20 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Infatuation Junkie said: Lee Bowyer.... Obviously didn't see his time at Leeds. Garbage for us but was brilliant for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Shola Ameobi - a striker who played at the highest level and managed 53 league goals in 312 appearances. Wasn't quick, didn't have great technique, wasn't a clinical finisher, couldn't dribble, wasn't particularly strong or have good links up play, wasn't good in the air, not skillful - no discernable quality which warranted the career he had. I can't explain this career at all. Reckon he was one of those players who looked great every day in training, but didn't translate to match days most of the time. On his (very few) good days he could look a world beater, then in the next match would look like he'd never seen a football let alone kicked one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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