Ikon Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I’d play him at CB instead of Burn once he’s ready tactically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 All probably a bit harsh on the lad - I’d assumed when we picked him up that he’d been brought in as a squad player If he’s been brought in as a first teamer, then I’d be a bit more concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: All probably a bit harsh on the lad - I’d assumed when we picked him up that he’d been brought in as a squad player If he’s been brought in as a first teamer, then I’d be a bit more concerned. He's been on about nailing down the lb slot for England recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Don’t think he was particularly good or bad, just ineffectual today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, Holloway said: He's been on about nailing down the lb slot for England recently Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition I suppose - but I think it’s unlikely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 What was that about coming in to shore things up defensively? Let crosses get by him all the time. In al likelyhood he’s a good player, but should not have taken Hall’s place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 10 minutes ago, Upthemags said: Poor marking on the goal which he played on. But, arguably more importantly, he was a true passenger on the attack. Less progressive than BDB, somehow, on the left. Sorry but that goal came from Livramento switching off and letting Tavernier waltz into the box unchallenged, on the other side of the pitch to where Kelly was. He was deeper that the other defenders, but that’s not how Tavernier's goal happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 9 minutes ago, gbandit said: Don’t think he was particularly good or bad, just ineffectual today yeah. nondescript. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Sorry but that goal came from Livramento switching off and letting Tavernier waltz into the box unchallenged, on the other side of the pitch to where Kelly was. He was deeper that the other defenders, but that’s not how Tavernier's goal happened Semenyo played a free pass into the box because Kelly was forcing him inside despite being a meter from being out of bounds. At best, it was unimpressive marking. Hall came on and transformed that left side with Barnes. There's a reason one player fetched 30m at 18 years old, and the other was allowed to run down his contract in the prime of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, Upthemags said: Semenyo played a free pass into the box because Kelly was forcing him inside despite being a meter from being out of bounds. At best, it was unimpressive marking. Hall came on and transformed that left side with Barnes. There's a reason one player fetched 30m at 18 years old, and the other was allowed to run down his contract in the prime of his career. Aye definitely, I bet Semenyo would’ve gotten no change at all out of Hall if he'd started too 🤦🏻♂️ and by your "Logic" Antony is one of the best wingers in global football. Honestly some people just love to be negative and piss and moan. I bet your nickname is Sad Sack at work like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Jeez people are harsh on here, he wasn't amazing by any stretch, but he wasn't particularly poor, he was very "Meh". Its his first game, and looks defensively solid, if a bit unimaginative going forward, him and Hall will be a horses for courses thing, in fact we've already seen it to be honest. Last week at home against a team we're fancied against, we start Hall to offer an extra attacking dimension, then when we need to be defensively solid and are backs to the wall, Kelly comes on and he shores us up, and does a good job. Today, we are away against a dangerous team that has pace, and Kelly starts as he's quicker, and can offer extra protection, then when we are behind, Hall comes on and offers that extra attacking threat. Its all about the situation and the game state, and having two full backs that have different strengths is a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Give him a wee bit of time maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 14 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Aye definitely, I bet Semenyo would’ve gotten no change at all out of Hall if he'd started too 🤦🏻♂️ and by your "Logic" Antony is one of the best wingers in global football. Honestly some people just love to be negative and piss and moan. I bet your nickname is Sad Sack at work like No need to get tickled, its my opinion mate. Ad hominem is childish. I'll stick to what we all saw with our own eyes - side was much better once Hall and Trips came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, Upthemags said: No need to get tickled, its my opinion mate. Ad hominem is childish. I'll stick to what we all saw with our own eyes - side was much better once Hall and Trips came on. We were much better when Longstaff and Murphy went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, KaKa said: We were much better when Longstaff and Murphy went off. Yes we were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySolano Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 17 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Give him a wee bit of time maybe? Tell that to Howe. Should have started Hall. I have a lot of patience for Howe and his coaching up is brilliant. But I thin he is in his own head. Hall was not half bad last week and it gives you more going forward. I thought Kelly was meh to poor. Just didnt contribute and as not particularly strong at the back. He seems unprepared/scared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, NobbySolano said: Hall was not half bad last week. He was like, especially in the second half, and we looked better when Kelly came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Actually thought he was one of our better players from the first half. Yes he probably should have cut out the cross leading to the goal, but he was solid overall and kept their biggest threat quiet. If we managed to keep the ball better, rather than treating it like a bomb, then he would have not received the stick from some on here. It didn't help that Burn's first touch was probably the worst I'd seen since he joined and the right hand side just pumped it long most of the time. Hall would definitely have struggled when they had the momentum in the first 45. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, CPL said: Actually thought he was one of our better players from the first half. Yes he probably should have cut out the cross leading to the goal, but he was solid overall and kept their biggest threat quiet. If we managed to keep the ball better, rather than treating it like a bomb, then he would have not received the stick from some on here. It didn't help that Burn's first touch was probably the worst I'd seen since he joined and the right hand side just pumped it long most of the time. Hall would definitely have struggled when they had the momentum in the first 45. I really admire the honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 should never have been purchased and he was bought due to some of his affiliations. Should have saved the wages and tagged them on to Tosin's offer or to actually get the defender we wanted. As somebody said above, his team at the time seemed all but content to let their injury prone defender go out of contract and leave for free. He wasnt in the market we should be shopping from. None of this is his fault and I will always back him when he plays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 You need a squad and he’s great for that when we get into Europe next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Did ok. Just another filler. Backed off way too much a few times and did'nt seem to want to get forward at all. Rather we used him as a CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, Tonalis Bookie said: should never have been purchased and he was bought due to some of his affiliations. Should have saved the wages and tagged them on to Tosin's offer or to actually get the defender we wanted. As somebody said above, his team at the time seemed all but content to let their injury prone defender go out of contract and leave for free. He wasnt in the market we should be shopping from. None of this is his fault and I will always back him when he plays He turned down their contract offer, and is highly rated there. And he is a good player, who you've obviously never seen previously, but here you are making wild assertions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I would say he is more of CB than LB. Offered no attacking threat from LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, KaKa said: He turned down their contract offer, and is highly rated there. And he is a good player, who you've obviously never seen previously, but here you are making wild assertions. yep, never seen him play, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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