Anthony Elanga: NUFC have bid of £45m rejected (Ornstein)

[STM]

This makes me wonder whether Forest are in a PSR pickle.

 

Perhaps they are trying to offload other players? 

 

Be interesting to see if this gains traction in the last couple of days of the month.

[r0cafella]

Just now, STM said:

This makes me wonder whether Forest are in a PSR pickle.

 

Perhaps they are trying to offload other players? 

 

Be interesting to see if this gains traction in the last couple of days of the month.

They aren't according to reports and they also aren't willing sellers. 

[The College Dropout]

9 hours ago, kingxlnc said:

Best transfer windows in memory

 

1995/96 Ginola Hislop Ferdinand Barton (Asprilla Batty)
1996/97 for Shearer alone

2001/02 Bellamy and Robert were game changers 

2015/16 Wijnaldum Thauvin Mbemba Mitrovic were four of the best young players in Europe

2021/22 Jan Trippier Burn Targett Bruno Wood

Did we not get relegated that season and sell all but 1 of those by the following season?

 

At least 2 of those rarely had a good game for us - possible 0 good games. Thought Mbemba was a Pardew era signing.

[Rocker]

3 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Daddy Howe?

Well considering where we are in the table(and where he rescued us from), I'd say Howe was more a top than a bottom. 

 

Edit- and he if continues to bring in the trophies, I'd call him Daddy until the cows come home . 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Rocker

[Nucasol]

Just now, STM said:

This makes me wonder whether Forest are in a PSR pickle.

 

Perhaps they are trying to offload other players? 

 

Be interesting to see if this gains traction in the last couple of days of the month.

Didn’t realise there’s only until Monday for some book balancing. Let’s see who shits themself and blinks first.

[The College Dropout]

Forest don't sell players that want to keep even if they do have PSR issues.

[r0cafella]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Forest don't sell players that want to keep even if they do have PSR issues.

Your referring to the Brennan Johnson sale? Does make me wonder why would they take less than what they got off spurs. 

 

I do think we are in a bit of bind and I also believe the reports saying Mbeumo was our primary target for that position. 

[Nucasol]

1 minute ago, Rocker said:

Well considering where we are in the table(and where he rescued us from), I'd say Howe was more a top than a bottom. 

 

 

 

[STM]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

They aren't according to reports and they also aren't willing sellers. 

 

I think you've misunderstood. Perhaps they do need to shift players in order to make money (in theory) and whilst Elanga isnt someone they want to sell, we are aware of their predicament.

 

Like I say, if they sell before the end of the month that will give us an idea.

[The College Dropout]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Your referring to the Brennan Johnson sale? Does make me wonder why would they take less than what they got off spurs. 

 

I do think we are in a bit of bind and I also believe the reports saying Mbeumo was our primary target for that position. 

Nah that was the year prior.

 

Last season - they learnt their lesson and sold some French lads in some dodgy situations - and got a great deal on Anderson and flogged dead wood.

[r0cafella]

Just now, STM said:

 

I think you've misunderstood. Perhaps they do need to shift players in order to make money (in theory) and whilst Elanga isnt someone they want to sell, we are aware of their predicament.

 

Like I say, if they sell before the end of the month that will give us an idea.

No, I perfectly understood what you were saying. 

 

The point I was making is this hasn't been reported anywhere (only ones under pressure are Villa)

 

They also breached ffp previously with the Johnson deal. They'd rather hold our than sell cheaply if history is anything to go by. 

[Crimson Cardigan]

Until recently there was a lot of talk of MGW going to City, that it was almost a done deal. Now that City have seemingly looked elsewhere, could it be that Forest need to make a sale of some kind in order to bring in the players they’ll need for Europe etc?

[The College Dropout]

 

 

None of these are distressed sales. If they need to sell, they'll find a better way than flogging Elanga on the cheap imo.

[STM]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

No, I perfectly understood what you were saying. 

 

The point I was making is this hasn't been reported anywhere (only ones under pressure are Villa)

 

They also breached ffp previously with the Johnson deal. They'd rather hold our than sell cheaply if history is anything to go by. 

 

Yes but you said "reported". Im aware of reports but I dont hold any great confidence in people who try to make guesses with finances. 

 

Im not saying Forest are in PSR trouble. It was a theory.

 

 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Until recently there was a lot of talk of MGW going to City, that it was almost a done deal. Now that City have seemingly looked elsewhere, could it be that Forest need to make a sale of some kind in order to bring in the players they’ll need for Europe etc?

If they are ok for this years accounting (which reports suggest they are) they don't need to sell before June 2026.

 

Unless you have issues for June 2025 - if you need PSR headroom, you can wait til next June to sell valuable players for you and get a full season out of them.

[kingxlnc]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Did we not get relegated that season and sell all but 1 of those by the following season?

 

At least 2 of those rarely had a good game for us - possible 0 good games. Thought Mbemba was a Pardew era signing.

Agreed but it was still very exciting at the time, after carver and pardew had finally left, spending the most in Europe that season, it felt like it was a brand new start with Graham Carr and his previous success being rewarded with more influence plus a new set of highly rated coaches. That season we also got Shelvey and Townsend, the team that got relegated was probably better than the 2008/09 team player for player. 

 

Just had a crappy manager that killed it all

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, STM said:

 

Yes but you said "reported". Im aware of reports but I dont hold any great confidence in people who try to make guesses with finances. 

 

Im not saying Forest are in PSR trouble. It was a theory.

 

 

TBF the reports last season were correct. Each of the 6 clubs named did dodgy deals to become compliant.

 

This year, only 1 club is reportedly close to failing again and they are likely to use the Chelsea hack on the women's team.

[The College Dropout]

Just now, kingxlnc said:

Agreed but it was still very exciting at the time, after carver and pardew had finally left, spending the most in Europe that season, it felt like it was a brand new start with Graham Carr and his previous success being rewarded with more influence plus a new set of highly rated coaches. That season we also got Shelvey and Townsend, the team that got relegated was probably better than the 2008/09 team player for player. 

 

Just had a crappy manager that killed it all

Eh. Team was consistently shit - hard to get excited by any of them. Only Gini & Mitro showed signs of any ability.

 

Thauvin was a disgrace in our shirt.

[The College Dropout]

Reports in the media tend to have some element of truth in them. Such as our longstanding interest in this lad.

 

Very rarely is the smoke without any fire.

[r0cafella]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Reports in the media tend to have some element of truth in them. Such as our longstanding interest in this lad.

 

Very rarely is the smoke without any fire.

I'm citing the accountant the athletic hired just to cover this subject

 

That being said, Chelsea have pretty much killed PSR so many loopholes means nobody should be taking deductions anytime soon. 

[kingxlnc]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Eh. Team was consistently shit - hard to get excited by any of them. Only Gini & Mitro showed signs of any ability.

 

Thauvin was a disgrace in our shirt.

I meant that summers transfer window, not the season itself which I agree was terrible.

 

For me personally after the terrible seasons of 2012/13, 2013/14 and 2014/15, where Ben Arfa was let go, where Kinnear had been and gone, where there had been chaos with Carver and just general negative feeling, that summer I felt ooh maybe the near miss of relegation the previous season has changed the ethos of Ashley (more fool me) and finally he actually is trying to bolt the horse onto the cart or whatever his stupid saying was

 

 

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I'm citing the accountant the athletic hired just to cover this subject

 

That being said, Chelsea have pretty much killed PSR so many loopholes means nobody should be taking deductions anytime soon. 

They've rarely been crazily wrong.

 

I refused to believe the early reports last season.

 

The Chelsea hacks require a lot of effort mind. Like our Owners could sell SJP to themselves 30% at a time. Doesn't sound like that's a plan to do anything like that.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

They've rarely been crazily wrong.

 

I refused to believe the early reports last season.

 

The Chelsea hacks require a lot of effort mind. Like our Owners could sell SJP to themselves 30% at a time. Doesn't sound like that's a plan to do anything like that.

What effort does selling a women's team take? Or an academy player swap? 

 

Very little imo, any selling of assets to oneself is extremely easy. 

 

That being said, back to the topic at hand. 

 

I'm really curious where we go from here, I do expect another offer to be made, it's a shame we can interest forest in say Willock to bring out outlay down and use some resources in central midfield. 

[The College Dropout]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

What effort does selling a women's team take? Or an academy player swap? 

 

Very little imo, any selling of assets to oneself is extremely easy. 

 

That being said, back to the topic at hand. 

 

I'm really curious where we go from here, I do expect another offer to be made, it's a shame we can interest forest in say Willock to bring out outlay down and use some resources in central midfield. 

We've not done it or look like we will. We've not even loaned a PIF-owned player.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

We've not done it or look like we will. We've not even loaned a PIF-owned player.

Oh no, for sure we are cut off a different cloth, a slow one.