Jonas Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Fully convinced and have grown more so with every game that this is the epitome of a midtable season. Just different degrees of averageness every week - play well lose, play okay win, play badly draw, play well one week bad the next - might be a handful of occasions where we hook it up and both play well and win this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 2 minutes ago, Disco said: Hugely frustrating as we’d managed the game really well after the goal. Just really sloppy play from Joelinton. This wasn't Liverpool we were playing - we shouldn't have to manage a game against a team that has barely scored a goal all season. We should have gone for the jugular after the 1st goal and finished them off - instead we just sat back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 We have 0 creativity when teams sit back and defend deep. We have pace on the counter and that's it. The players also seem to lack motivation unless it's a big game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 9 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Yeah. What a ridiculously reductive view. If we drew in an even game and there was a response from Monday. The reaction would be totally different. As it is. We’ve scored from one shot all game, none on target and we were atrocious for pretty much the whole game. I wonder why people are fucked off. It’s not like a one off after loads of impressive, high scoring performances is it? See, when we play badly and win or draw, it's about the performance. When we play well and lose, it's about the result. That was a poor performance and a decent result, so naturally we're all going to talk about the performance rather than the result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Just now, pubteam said: We have 0 creativity when teams sit back and defend deep. We have pace on the counter and that's it. The players also seem to lack motivation unless it's a big game. I agree - but what is worse Palace weren't sitting back they were after a goal. We were the ones who sat back - you could just see they were going to score one of their chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Yeah we've already seen this season that playing well cuts no ice on here so lets not pretend playing well and not winning would satisfy people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 I wouldn't write us off next weekend mind, we dig deep for these encounters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 So we just gonna act like having only 1 shot for an entire game is normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: See, when we play badly and win or draw, it's about the performance. When we play well and lose, it's about the result. That was a poor performance and a decent result, so naturally we're all going to talk about the performance rather than the result. Dropping points to a side below us (again) and that started the day in the bottom 3 isn't a decent result if you want to be getting top 7 imo. "We're usually shit at venue x" I find reductionist. Edited November 30 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Really disappointing, feels like ages since we’ve put together a sustained good run. Were a lot of mitigating factors last year but not now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 3 minutes ago, duo said: This wasn't Liverpool we were playing - we shouldn't have to manage a game against a team that has barely scored a goal all season. We should have gone for the jugular after the 1st goal and finished them off - instead we just sat back. You have to manage a game whoever you’re playing and we did have any number of corners and FKs around the area second half, was hardly like we just sat back at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Dropping points to a side below us and that started the day in the bottom 3 isn't a decent result if you want to be getting top 7 imo. "We're usually shit at venue x" I find reductionist. One man's reduction is another man's evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BermyToon Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 We have two decent left-wingers in Gordon and Barnes, and we still decide to play them on the right wing, and stick Joelinton - who can't cross - on the left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Just now, Kid Icarus said: One man's reduction is another man's evidence. Because we played well there way back in 2013 but lost there in 2015 and 2020 etc etc aren't justifications for 1 shot and 0 on target against a side in the bottom 4 for me, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Just now, Kid Icarus said: See, when we play badly and win or draw, it's about the performance. When we play well and lose, it's about the result. That was a poor performance and a decent result, so naturally we're all going to talk about the performance rather than the result. A decent result? They’re third from bottom ffs, have one England international and have since been touting him as “world class”, meanwhile we have Brazilian, Swedish and Italian internationals yet we’re all meant to be happy with a “decent” point. Look, I’m a big fan of what Howe has achieved but I believe when the dust seemed settled and he leaves then his league position will average around 8th. Question is will the owners be happy with that and think it’s “decent”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 2 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said: So we just gonna act like having only 1 shot for an entire game is normal? We had one?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BermyToon Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 1 minute ago, OverThere said: We had one?? I didn't see their keeper make a single save all game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Liverpool could be a disaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 (edited) That was a pretty insipid performance. We didn't even deserve a point. The midfield isn't right. We have no creativity and poor finishing on top of that. Edited November 30 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 (edited) Styles make matches, time and time again we struggle against sides that don’t mind us having the ball. It’s a very noticeable trend at this point. We built a team to press, when we can’t deploy that we look lost. Same old. Edited November 30 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Because we played well there way back in 2013 but lost there in 2015 and 2020 etc etc aren't justifications for 1 shot and 0 on target against a side in the bottom 4 for me, like. No one's making that argument. The performance was poor, albeit we played most of it without a striker. The result, with historical context, is decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Was our XG for the whole game 0.02 or Joelinton ? That has to be the lowest in Premier League history if it was for the whole match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Palace are better than 3rd bottom, think that's a poor excuse to use for the criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gawalls said: A decent result? They’re third from bottom ffs, have one England international and have since been touting him as “world class”, meanwhile we have Brazilian, Swedish and Italian internationals yet we’re all meant to be happy with a “decent” point. Look, I’m a big fan of what Howe has achieved but I believe when the dust seemed settled and he leaves then his league position will average around 8th. Question is will the owners be happy with that and think it’s “decent”. Never been how football works though is it? They've beaten Spurs, drawn with Man United, and Liverpool only beat them 1-0 at home. Our record there is poor, a 0-0, 1-0 loss or 1-1 is par. Edited November 30 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 I wouldn’t consider that a positive result, at best it’s okay/neutral - I think we should be winning most away games like that if we’re looking to be challenging CL.! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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