Newcastle United 4-3 Notts Forest - 23/02

[80]

12 minutes ago, madras said:

Tottenham were upset because it was against them, they'd ha e been upset had it been committed by their player and they'd been penalised for it as well, like most fans, they do t look honestly on things.

Of course.

 

You still haven't dealt with my Bruno observation though... In a world where Schar was sent off against Southampton, it's obvious Anderson was at risk of a red if Murphy had been more devious. He looks back at Murphy's face and then aims his hand at it.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 10:58 by 80

[madras]

2 minutes ago, 80 said:

Of course.

 

You still haven't dealt with my Bruno observation though... In a world where Schar was sent off against Southampton, it's obvious Anderson was at risk of a red if Murphy had been more devious. He looks back at Murphy's face and then aims his hand at it.

 

 

 

I dont see that, in play you kind of know where someone head is, you don't need to check. Re Bruno, it's that he's built a bit of a reputation for losing it a bit and it could cost us. There have been occasions when he chohld have been booked for being a bit over zealous, I'll also go with Dan Burn being lucky on occasion obviously holding too much, counter balanced with Joelinton being penalised for just being stronger.

[80]

3 minutes ago, madras said:

I dont see that, in play you kind of know where someone head is, you don't need to check. Re Bruno, it's that he's built a bit of a reputation for losing it a bit and it could cost us. There have been occasions when he chohld have been booked for being a bit over zealous, I'll also go with Dan Burn being lucky on occasion obviously holding too much, counter balanced with Joelinton being penalised for just being stronger.

I agree, but Anderson actually does on this occasion

 

To be clear, I'm not calling for a red. As I said in my original post, on balance of evidence I think it was a rib between mates. But if they hadn't been mates it would've been a different story, similar to helping someone off the floor and pinching their skin as you do it.

[madras]

Just now, 80 said:

I agree, but Anderson actually does on this occasion

 

To be clear, I'm not calling for a red. As I said in my original post, on balance of evidence I think it was a rib between mates. But if they hadn't been mates it would've been a different story, similar to helping someone off the floor and pinching their skin as you do it.

I wonder what people would have thought if it was Murphy on Anderson ?

[80]

Just now, madras said:

I wonder what people would have thought if it was Murphy on Anderson ?

Personally I'd think "that's weird, guess it's Murphy playing a cheeky 'welcome home' trick on a mate. Glad the referee didn't notice".

[alexf]

Anyone noticed how bad we have been at keeping possession from our own throw-ins. Obviously this weekend  highlighted it massively but it's been an in joke in my house for years that pretty much everytime we get a throw-in we have lost possession within about 5 seconds. 

[bigfella]

I go on about this in every match thread.

There's very little movement from the players ahead of the throw, even when in good attacking positions.

The player taking the throw in then looks sideways, eventually throws it back and it ends up with the keeper 

within two touches.

It led to Forest's first goal on Sunday.

[The Bonk]

On 24/02/2025 at 06:16, Lush Vlad said:

Nuno refused to shake Howe's hand after the game?  That's what Luke Edwards said, anyway.  

 

Mad that with all the times Forest have scored first in the league.  Their only 2 losses are against us.  I suppose that is another positive to take from yesterday, despite the second half taking a bit of shine off the win. 

 

Small sample size.  But I just checked and we have been crap at home if we concede first.  Gone on to lose to Bournemouth, Brighton and West Ham.  Where in all of those games, we seemed to run out of ideas at different points and seemed unable to break them down.  I think the only other time was against City, where we salvaged a deserved point. 

 

So it's decent that we managed to turn it around yesterday.  Even if their goal was against the run of play and was a howler from Pope and Murphy.  They're more than solid once they get ahead and whilst we had our own luck.  We were top quality for half an hour or so in that first half.

 

Strangely, we've been better away from home when going a goal down.   I think it is 4 wins and a draw.  

 

 

 

Lost some respect for Nuno for this bullshit. Also, didn't I see an image of them hugging before the match?  
 

 

[huss9]

2 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

Lost some respect for Nuno for this bullshit. Also, didn't I see an image of them hugging before the match?  
 

 

there was a pre match hug tbf

[The Bonk]

A hug does go further than a shake, so maybe Nuno thought he was good for the remainder of the match win, lose or draw.  

[Matt1892]

2 hours ago, alexf said:

Anyone noticed how bad we have been at keeping possession from our own throw-ins. Obviously this weekend  highlighted it massively but it's been an in joke in my house for years that pretty much everytime we get a throw-in we have lost possession within about 5 seconds. 

I have only seen the stats for women’s football but I think it is 23% of forward throws retain possession for longer than 5 seconds, compared to 82% of throws that go backwards.

 

It would be interesting to see what ours is compared to the league average.

[DebuchyAndTheBeast]

3 hours ago, alexf said:

Anyone noticed how bad we have been at keeping possession from our own throw-ins. Obviously this weekend  highlighted it massively but it's been an in joke in my house for years that pretty much everytime we get a throw-in we have lost possession within about 5 seconds. 

 

I honestly think we're just generally bad at keeping possession, full stop. I was both surprised and unsurprised when I saw the dispossession stats placing us at the top. Surprised because we're still in the hunt for a Cl place, and it’s easy to exaggerate how bad our play can seem at times. But at the same time, I'm not shocked, especially after seeing how we barely exerted any control during the second half against Forest.  It makes me wonder if it’s because we’re being too direct or because the whole team is careless in possession

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 15:10 by DebuchyAndTheBeast

[GEFAFWISP]

4 hours ago, DebuchyAndTheBeast said:

 

I honestly think we're just generally bad at keeping possession, full stop. I was both surprised and unsurprised when I saw the dispossession stats placing us at the top. Surprised because we're still in the hunt for a Cl place, and it’s easy to exaggerate how bad our play can seem at times. But at the same time, I'm not shocked, especially after seeing how we barely exerted any control during the second half against Forest.  It makes me wonder if it’s because we’re being too direct or because the whole team is careless in possession

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's 100% tied to the way we play, get vertical quickly in transition, means passing lanes aren't always open for players of lesser vision/ability to hit someone. See Burn losing it and looking like a prat or Tino dallying at the weekend. I don't think we want to play it safe, very 90s Denmark (or was it Norway?)...

 

I will caveat this that it doesn't fully excuse some of the brain farts.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 19:33 by GEFAFWISP