gdm Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Displayname said: PSR amortisation is also max 5 years isn't it? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Mate at most Isak cost £65m and he's done 3 years of a 6 year deal, how the fuck have you come up with a £44m book price? wages on top of that to consider as well Edited July 24, 2025 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: 1st July wasn't it? Early June from memory - but my memory has been wrong before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: How do we lose money on the Isak sale? I don’t mean lose money I mean the first 44m + sell on fee is gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Displayname said: PSR amortisation is also max 5 years isn't it? Not at the time of us signing Isak, but even if it was it would’ve meant we’d have amortised 60% of his fee instead of 50% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Not at the time of us signing Isak, but even if it was it would’ve meant we’d have amortised 60% of his fee instead of 50% Yeah I know. Was more a post to back your numbers up even more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Displayname said: PSR amortisation is also max 5 years isn't it? Not sure if that was brought in after we bought Isak so does it count to those on longer contracts from before that ruling was brought in ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: wages on top of that to consider as well You don’t consider wages remaining on a contract you’re not going to paying, you’ve had a very basic maths and logic 'mare here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Yes Now, but we bought Isak before the PL changed it to be five years after Chelsea took the piss. So his fee could be amortised across the 6 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: How do we lose money on the Isak sale? We don't, obviously any sale price has to be offset against the remaining book value, but the OP clearly has a knackered calculator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Yeah there's about half Isak's fee left on his book value, so if we sell him, 32 odd million gets taken off the net profits for the sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Checko said: Yeah there's about half Isak's fee left on his book value, so if we sell him, 32 odd million gets taken off the net profits for the sale. Plus the reportedly sell on fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 10 minutes ago, Gawalls said: I don’t mean lose money I mean the first 44m + sell on fee is gone Got you - Isak’s been here more than three seasons, so 60% of his fee is amortised, not 30% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Gawalls said: Plus the reportedly sell on fee If there's a sell on fee that would get taken off before working out the net profits, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Gawalls said: Plus the reportedly sell on fee Which is still only rumoured, also remember the £62M fee was also based on add ons, how many of these have been met? also £32M isn’t £44M is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Got you - Isak’s been here more than three seasons, so 60% of his fee is amortised, not 30% Depends on if he club elected to amortise his fee over the full length of his contract or not, as the 5 year maximum came in the following year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 He’s been here for 3 years pre-5 year amortisation max. he’ll have £30m left on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Which is still only rumoured, also remember the £62M fee was also based on add ons, how many of these have been met? also £32M isn’t £44M is it? Fair enough I was wrong on that but say sell on is correct and at 10% - all I was saying was to the posts saying “we’ll get these for 265 - isaks sale we may get them for £115”, that’s not going to happen. Edited July 24, 2025 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Depends on if he club elected to amortise his fee over the full length of his contract or not, as the 5 year maximum came in the following year The standard was over the length of the contract. So 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 And sell ons are usually based on profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Fair enough I was wrong on that but say sell on is correct and at 10% - all I was saying was to the posts saying “we’ll get there for 265 - isaks sale we may get them for £115”, that’s not going to happen. Given the circumstances around this, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of that rumoured sell on clause will be passed onto whoever is buying, by way of a higher fee. I also imagine Alex's recent behaviour might see him lose out on loyalty bonuses etc too. So if indeed there is a sell on clause, which I certainly can’t remember being reported on at the time of his signing, the club will try and mitigate that as far as possible. There’s no way he goes for the £120M Liverpool might want, it’s time for them to put up or shut up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Given the circumstances around this, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of that rumoured sell on clause will be passed onto whoever is buying, by way of a higher fee. I also imagine Alex's recent behaviour might see him lose out on loyalty bonuses etc too. So if indeed there is a sell on clause, which I certainly can’t remember being reported on at the time of his signing, the club will try and mitigate that as far as possible. There’s no way he goes for the £120M Liverpool might want, it’s time for them to put up or shut up I went looking a few hours ago and found stupid typical articles dating back start of the year on it - saying 10% but just stupid online stuff. Edited July 24, 2025 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 Brentford determined to keep him. Is he training on his own yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 Still no breakthrough?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 Just now, Shearergol said: Brentford determined to keep him. Is he training on his own yet? He is training by himself in London, iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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