Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) It has a bigger footprint It's a mock up of if the Leazes stand size went all the way round. We're all just posting suggestions anyway but I'd argue that Pons' contribution considering his job is more valuable than most on here. Edited October 5, 2024 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Wandy said: This hypothetical illustration is a nonsense too I’m afraid. The “new’ stadium that has been plonked there on Castle Leazes has a smaller footprint even than SJP in its current guise, never mind putting a new stadium on there with a much bigger footprint. Yeah, but the first bit which outlines which parts is listed is a good thing to keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 Somebody feel free to map to scale Tottenham's stadium or Dortmund's into the same space, it'll fit there with some minimal overlap on LP even if you needed to flip it which way or another. Certainly far more obtainable there than to the north of the ground or in the existing location for various reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It has a bigger footprint It's a mock up of if the Leazes stand size went all the way round. We're all just posting suggestions anyway but I'd argue that Pons' contribution considering his job is more valuable than most on here. It hasn’t. Take some measurements if you don’t believe me. Not saying a stadium couldn’t be put there but it would need a bigger footprint than the one hypothesised in this illustration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Somebody feel free to map to scale Tottenham's stadium or Dortmund's into the same space, it'll fit there with some minimal overlap on LP even if you needed to flip it which way or another. Certainly far more obtainable there than to the north of the ground or in the existing location for various reasons. Atalanta’s Mercedes Benz has the smallest footprint of the newer stadium, whilst still having a larger capacity. The capacity for our football there is just over 73,000, so very much where I would expect a new stadium for us to be. It also has a semi-open end behind one of the goal lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 Marvel at my elite MS Paint and Google Map skills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Wandy said: It hasn’t. Take some measurements if you don’t believe me. Not saying a stadium couldn’t be put there but it would need a bigger footprint than the one hypothesised in this illustration. The residential properties to the north West are also a constraint, there will need to be sufficient distance from them not to unacceptably impact on light. But there probably would be layout that would work, with the stadium turned 90 degrees and closer to Barack Road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 God that stadium is ugly mind, can't understand the love for it at all and would hope we don't end up with something like that on the skyline. Have at it with this https://joshuahhh.com/projects/same-scale/#16.49/51.492453/7.450687/54.978340/-1.626496/Satellite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 11 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Marvel at my elite MS Paint and Google Map skills That's it. I'm IN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: The residential properties to the north West are also a constraint, there will need to be sufficient distance from them not to unacceptably impact on light. But there probably would be layout that would work, with the stadium turned 90 degrees and closer to Barack Road. I would imagine if we were to build on that site, then the pitch would be below surface level, much like the SoS? That would lessen any right to light impact, surely? Edited October 5, 2024 by bigfella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Wandy said: It hasn’t. Take some measurements if you don’t believe me. Not saying a stadium couldn’t be put there but it would need a bigger footprint than the one hypothesised in this illustration. Like the one below for example? As has been said, it's just for illustration purposes but you don't need to measure it to see that applying The Leazes end all the way around SJP means you get a bigger footprint than the current site, that's the exact reason why we can't do it. It's absolutely bigger btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, bigfella said: I would imagine if we were to build on that site, then the pitch would be below surface level, much like the SoS? That would lessen any right to light impact, surely? Maybe lessend a bit but it would still be a factor in how close the stadium can be to them. Edited October 5, 2024 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 21 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: God that stadium is ugly mind, can't understand the love for it at all and would hope we don't end up with something like that on the skyline. Have at it with this https://joshuahhh.com/projects/same-scale/#16.49/51.492453/7.450687/54.978340/-1.626496/Satellite Done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 and one for our resident toilet bowl fetishists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 36 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Marvel at my elite MS Paint and Google Map skills Looks like a damn mothership landed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 With a new stadium the surrounding areas will have a ring around it, like the emirates, spurs, coms, Olympic stadium etc. The security and safety expectations are much higher and so the land area needed will be much bigger then the pitch and stands footprint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 I’d love a design to be San Siro style. Someone shop that in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: and one for our resident toilet bowl fetishists I’m sure Spurs’ stadium is larger than the Mercedes Benz stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: With a new stadium the surrounding areas will have a ring around it, like the emirates, spurs, coms, Olympic stadium etc. The security and safety expectations are much higher and so the land area needed will be much bigger then the pitch and stands footprint Spurs’ doesn’t, however they do close off the nearby roads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Charlton Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 Lots of these modern stadiums will be out of fashion again in 20 years so would love it to look like a actual castle that can be seen from space or the side of it with a twin towers of the old wembley vibe on a bigger scale,Massive stone blocks as far as the eye can see A real fortress Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Stifler said: I’m sure Spurs’ stadium is larger than the Mercedes Benz stadium. Assuming that website @Kid Icarus linked to is accurate, they're pretty much identical other than Spurs being more oval versus MB's circular shape. https://joshuahhh.com/projects/same-scale/#17.57/51.604055/-0.066421/33.755322/-84.400658/Satellite Edited October 5, 2024 by Keegans Export Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, Steve Charlton said: Lots of these modern stadiums will be out of fashion again in 20 years so would love it to look like a actual castle that can be seen from space or the side of it with a twin towers of the old wembley vibe on a bigger scale,Massive stone blocks as far as the eye can see A real fortress Have something like this with statues of Eddie and Jason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 11 minutes ago, Stifler said: Spurs’ doesn’t, however they do close off the nearby roads. Spurs have a concrete concourse that’s goes all the way outside, then two areas at each end where they do the security checks before you go up the stairs to the concourse, it’s a different shape but the footprint of spurs stadium is massively larger than just the stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2024 Share Posted October 5, 2024 16 minutes ago, Stifler said: I’m sure Spurs’ stadium is larger than the Mercedes Benz stadium. That's the exact scale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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