St James' Park

[RS]

Would people be happy with the stadium being renamed the sports direct arena if it was a £200m deal?  Personally I’d tell

them to fuck off. 

[David Edgar]

If we got a legitimate stadium naming deal worth hundreds of millions I would not care about the name change.

[christ]

9 minutes ago, Nun tumblers said:

Oh fucking great let's not compete with our rivals,no change at any cost.

Fucking dinosaurs. 

Spurs can rename their staduim for anything upto 1Billion so if its the Apple st james Park staduim it's no big deal ffs...also if we had to build a new stadium preferably in the city boundary it not going to be called SJP is it!! you've got to move with the times.

 

 

 

 

There are dozens of different commercial avenues the club can exploit before stadium naming rights should even be up for discussion.
 

The figures people think it’ll bring in are pretty fanciful. The most successful stadium sponsorship to date (legitimate anyway) has been Emirates at Arsenal which has generated about £250m since 2005 and runs until the end of this decade. I appreciate the game has changed slightly over the years, but Spurs are not getting anything close to a billion particularly with rules around market value.
 

There’s no meaningful precedent in this country for a club of our size, with a ground as old as SJP, renaming their stadium. Old Trafford, Villa Park, Anfield, Goodison, Stamford Bridge etc. I protested when Ashley did it and I’d protest if the Saudis did it.

[Whitley mag]

My final two penneth on the subject if it was named St Jame’s Park sponsored by Aramco i seriously doubt the majority would have any problem.

 

I would expect due to PIF’s global presence it would be a blue chip company and marketed very professionally unlike we’ve been used to in the past.

[SteV]

Surely something like this keeps everybody happy

 

https://www.marketingweek.com/ee-and-wembley-confirm-ground-breaking-sponsorship/

 

Probably a few million down on any outright naming deal, but if it means you can actually get a phone signal in the ground…

[Keggy_Keagal]

It's worth exploring. See what the naming rights deal is and what the proposed name would be then put it to the supporters for a vote. So long as there is transparency about the process. The owners have supporter trust at the moment it would be foolish to disrupt that.  

[Nun tumblers]

3 minutes ago, RS said:

Would people be happy with the stadium being renamed the sports direct arena if it was a £200m deal?  Personally I’d tell

them to fuck off. 

Well if you think pif are that fucking stupid good luck. One of the worlds most iconic staduims is the Spotify Nou Camp do no change at SJP brigrade just think we are gan keep plucking Bruno G & Isak's etc out of thin air with no give.i stood on the Leazes end as a kid with my pals and sang " westwood is a pirate " and sang "get out of our club you rotund London chap" in my 50s so  get real BTW it'll always be SJP even if they put some name in front of it.

[christ]

Barcelona probably aren’t the best example of a club making smart financial decisions like.

[Wallsendmag]

4 minutes ago, Nun tumblers said:

Well if you think pif are that fucking stupid good luck. One of the worlds most iconic staduims is the Spotify Nou Camp do no change at SJP brigrade just think we are gan keep plucking Bruno G & Isak's etc out of thin air with no give.i stood on the Leazes end as a kid with my pals and sang " westwood is a pirate " and sang "get out of our club you rotund London chap" in my 50s so  get real BTW it'll always be SJP even if they put some name in front of it.

 

Good point. I don't know a single person who refers to it as The Spotify Nou Camp either. It'll always be the Nou Camp or the Camp Nou depending on which way you are inclined!

[Wallsendmag]

3 minutes ago, christ said:

Barcelona probably aren’t the best example of a club making smart financial decisions like.

 

I think his argument though was that it's happened to arguably the worlds most iconic stadium but everyone still calls it by its original name.

[RS]

 Think he needs to take his Thorazine and come back as Fantail Breeze again. 

[LV]

1 minute ago, RS said:

 Think he needs to take his Thorazine and come back as Fantail Breeze again. 

Whatever happened to him?? 

[RS]

2 minutes ago, LV said:

Whatever happened to him?? 

You never see the two pigeons in the same loft!

[Nun tumblers]

Never posted under any other name. 

So ya wrang on that one anarl.

[Kid Icarus]

27 minutes ago, Nun tumblers said:

Well if you think pif are that fucking stupid good luck. One of the worlds most iconic staduims is the Spotify Nou Camp do no change at SJP brigrade just think we are gan keep plucking Bruno G & Isak's etc out of thin air with no give.i stood on the Leazes end as a kid with my pals and sang " westwood is a pirate " and sang "get out of our club you rotund London chap" in my 50s so  get real BTW it'll always be SJP even if they put some name in front of it.

 

PIF are that stupid. I'd recommend looking into The Line and Neom if you're just assuming it's some kind of perfect business operation, because it's not. And again, you're just assuming a name change would bring in loads of money, when there's nothing to suggest it would.

[BoSelecta]

14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

PIF are that stupid. I'd recommend looking into The Line and Neom if you're just assuming it's some kind of perfect business operation, because it's not. And again, you're just assuming a name change would bring in loads of money, when there's nothing to suggest it would.

It would bring in significant money, enough to impact the first team in a meaningful way. That’s not up for debate. The debate is over whether people are happy to accept that in exchange for a ‘name change’.

[Jackie Broon]

2 minutes ago, BoSelecta said:

It would bring in significant money, enough to impact the first team in a meaningful way. That’s not up for debate. The debate is over whether people are happy to accept that in exchange for a ‘name change’.

 

The market value for naming rights seems to be about £15m per year. I wouldn't be happy with replacing stadium name for that, maybe an addition to the name but that's not worth losing the name St. James' Park for.

[Nun tumblers]

10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

PIF are that stupid. I'd recommend looking into The Line and Neom if you're just assuming it's some kind of perfect business operation, because it's not. And again, you're just assuming a name change would bring in loads of money, when there's nothing to suggest it would.

Well it's been widely reported that spurs stadium could be renamed at 500- 600 million and anything upto 1Billion,

We are roughly turning over1/3rd of the big six so all these barmy fuckers wanting to throw a fly in the ointment because the best thing to happen to my club in my lifetime might want a mega wealthy staduim sponsor, these opposing it are 100% in the minority. 

[Kid Icarus]

9 minutes ago, BoSelecta said:

It would bring in significant money, enough to impact the first team in a meaningful way. That’s not up for debate. The debate is over whether people are happy to accept that in exchange for a ‘name change’.

It is up for debate though, unless you can cite other sponsorship deals that are comparable. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Nun tumblers said:

Well it's been widely reported that spurs stadium could be renamed at 500- 600 million and anything upto 1Billion,

We are roughly turning over1/3rd of the big six so all these barmy fuckers wanting to throw a fly in the ointment because the best thing to happen to my club in my lifetime might want a mega wealthy staduim sponsor, these opposing it are 100% in the minority. 

Absolutely fantasy to think we'd get anything near that, even if we could justify it financially.

 

You can keep making claims and throwing about childish insults all you want like,  it makes no difference.

[Gawalls]

1 hour ago, christ said:

Fundamentally opposed to any stadium name change. I don’t care about the X millions it may bring in, St James’ Park is sacrosanct. 

It really isn’t, it’s just a name and shouldn’t stand in the way of progress imo.

[Gawalls]

1 hour ago, Nun tumblers said:

Oh fucking great let's not compete with our rivals,no change at any cost.

Fucking dinosaurs. 

Spurs can rename their staduim for anything upto 1Billion so if its the Apple st james Park staduim it's no big deal ffs...also if we had to build a new stadium preferably in the city boundary it not going to be called SJP is it!! you've got to move with the times.

 

 

 

 

100% - the other option is a new ground or not complete. Either way we get left behind and never compete at the top or we get a new ground and it’s renamed anyway. 

[Gawalls]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

If you honestly think the money that a name change would bring in would be worth it, you either need to look at the amounts brought in elsewhere, or you value the St James' Park name very cheaply. It doesn't take a dinosaur to know that. 

 

At nun, not WM.

 

 

 

If the money brought in for a name change wasn’t worth it then nobody would have changed their names ffs, the proof is in the pudding.

 

 They’re better business men than any of us and haven’t done evening to earn our distrust so as  far as I’m concerned then if they say we need to change the name to progress then that’s good enough for me.

 

 The same people that are saying “you better not change the name” are probably a lot of the same people saying “why didn’t you buy more players last window - moneys not an issue”. Can’t have it both ways

[christ]

10 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

It really isn’t, it’s just a name and shouldn’t stand in the way of progress imo.

Newcastle United is just a name. Black and white are just colours. Newcastle is just another city on the map.

 

By your logic literally everything should be up for grabs providing there’s some financial benefit to the club.

 

The fact that the further commercialisation of a football club is seen as ‘progress’ is pretty depressing. I’m a realist, but there I some things that should be beyond money. 

[Gawalls]

2 minutes ago, christ said:

Newcastle United is just a name. Black and white are just colours. Newcastle is just another city on the map.

 

By your logic literally everything should be up for grabs providing there’s some financial benefit to the club.

 

The fact that the further commercialisation of a football club is seen as ‘progress’ is pretty depressing. I’m a realist, but there I some things that should be beyond money. 

Good job you’re not in charge of driving the club on then.