TheBrownBottle Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said: If I'm being totally honest I've never been a fan of SJP since the extension in 2000. I've been unlucky enough to be put up in Level 7 three times so far this season and it's horrible. You just feel so detached from it all and there's more atmosphere on the moon. At the Chelsea game a dad and lad next to us trying to identify various landmarks from over the East Stand roof instead of watching the game. Says it all really. Couldn't agree more. Never liked the lopsided SJP, and the atmosphere is harmed by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Billy Warthog said: Get the Arena site and build something similar to the SoFi Stadium. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 If they're going to F5 everything then the best option is to move to a temporary stadium on Leazes for 2 years and rebuild SJP. That small rectangle of grass has been our home for 130 years and I'd quite like that to continue to be the place we played football if at all possible like Moving 200m up the road isn't the end of the world but I'd like to stay put given the option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Warthog Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Behold the future... ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Billy Warthog said: Behold the future... ? I've always thought it would be rad to have the bowl of the stadium up on the Leazes Park hill and then something like the part (on the right) going down towards the new park where SJP was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 That might be the ugliest stadium I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: The fact that the survey asked how much more you'd be willing to pay and started the slider at 50%. No way to say 'actually it's already quite pricey, like'. Jesus wept. Football sold its soul years ago. I used to get very, very angry at this stuff. All this in the poorest region of Great Britain. A lot of this is down to FFP. All FFP seems to do is ensure that the ludicrously wealthy don't have to spend as much money on their vanity projects - the plebs just end up paying more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, midds said: If they're going to F5 everything then the best option is to move to a temporary stadium on Leazes for 2 years and rebuild SJP. That small rectangle of grass has been our home for 130 years and I'd quite like that to continue to be the place we played football if at all possible like Moving 200m up the road isn't the end of the world but I'd like to stay put given the option Can't believe for a second that they'd willingly spend a couple of hundred million on a temporary stadium for a couple of years so that they can retain the same postal address, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, Wandy said: It may be their thinking that having a significant corporate presence will allow standard ticketing to be kept at a “reasonable” level. This might well be the reasoning given for binning off SJP in its current state. An all new stadium, pretty much in the same area but with the scope to accommodate all class of fans in large numbers. The current stadium will simply never be able to do that. Yep, I think so too - a new ground with extensive corporate areas. SJP doesn't have the footprint to extend this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 St James didn't look like it looks like this in the 1980 or even more in the 1970. The place is scared but the shape of the stadium always use to be refurbished to give it the current look. Hence I do like us to build perhaps the biggest and the most expensive stadium on the current lot we have. Make construction work as quick and as swift as possible and try to finsh it in a season or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Strawberry said: St James didn't look like it looks like this in the 1980 or even more in the 1970. The place is scared but the shape of the stadium always use to be refurbished to give it the current look. Hence I do like us to build perhaps the biggest and the most expensive stadium on the current lot we have. Make construction work as quick and as swift as possible and try to finsh it in a season or two. Where do we go in the meantime? Newcastle isn’t surrounded by close places with big grounds. A temporary stadium of requisite size will be a no-go. There isn’t the room on Barrack Road to do what Spurs did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Pretty moronic of the club to send out a survey with questions relating to corporate clients to normal folks. Great way to get people’s back ups. That being said, we need a new stadium that can accommodate everyone, from the rich folks to the bairns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 53 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Where do we go in the meantime? Newcastle isn’t surrounded by close places with big grounds. A temporary stadium of requisite size will be a no-go. There isn’t the room on Barrack Road to do what Spurs did. Share the stadium with the smoggies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Strawberry said: Share the stadium with the smoggies. It's a no go sharing grounds with another club for a season (maybe more). The only club that could invoke any discussion is Sunderland and that would never happen in a month of Sundays. Before you even look at talking to the FA, Premier League or another club's Executives; it would be blocked straight away by another county's police force, who are not going to accept multi thousands of Newcastle fans into their city on numerous occasions. The bill for that would also be stupid and make it non viable from the start. Edited December 5, 2023 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 But I’m glad we are doing something and not just kicking it into the long grass, I wonder when we will hear about the new training ground? I get the feeling that’s taking a backseat though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, et tu brute said: It's a no go sharing grounds with another club for a season (maybe more). The only club that could invoke any discussion is Sunderland and that would never happen in a month of Sundays. Before you even look at talking to the FA, Premier League or another club's Executives; it would be blocked straight away by another county's police force, who are not going to accept multi thousands of Newcastle fans into their city on numerous occasions. The bill for that would also be stupid and make it non viable from the start. The police will do it if the money is right, we've had a Tory government for 13 years, its how they role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ben said: The police will do it if the money is right, we've had a Tory government for 13 years, it's how they role. As I also mentioned the cost would be stupid money and not viable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Wandy said: It may be their thinking that having a significant corporate presence will allow standard ticketing to be kept at a “reasonable” level. This might well be the reasoning given for binning off SJP in its current state. An all new stadium, pretty much in the same area but with the scope to accommodate all class of fans in large numbers. The current stadium will simply never be able to do that. This. If we are building a new stadium, be it new SJP or not, we are not going to be building a 60k stadium with 8k cinema sofa seats. It will be a 70k stadium with about 2k cinema sofa seats, and they will be placed in areas where the bars are located in anyway, plus the tunnel club that we’ll undoubtedly get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, et tu brute said: As I also mentioned the cost would be stupid money and not viable Our owners just paid £750 million for a golfer and £75 million to host a boxing event, I don't think they are short of a few bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Billy Warthog said: Get the Arena site and build something similar to the SoFi Stadium... or maybe not...! I dunno. It's tricky as hell. Nah, I’d rather something like Spurs stadium, or the Lucas Oil Field. We’ll probably go for something like Atlanta’s though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) It’s pretty damning that the known whingers on Twatter who have season tickets, and hold non-season ticket holders with control are all against this. Aye class, so it’s great for you to say to fans of other clubs that your club has a 52k stadium, and 35k waiting to get in, but you just don’t want to let any of those 35k in and keep skating them over things like the ballot etc which doesn’t even effect you. Honestly though, as a former season ticket holders (over 2 different periods) and as a member, I want my email, and to have my say. Not fair that they are asking people who already have a season ticket, but not asking their potential new season tickets holders who they would be increasing the capacity for. Edited December 5, 2023 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Fundamentally, isn’t more seats for the average Joe and more seats for corporates a win win? I don’t quite understand the negativity to this aspect of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I think I'm firmly in the new stadium vote now, how close to the current site can it be built ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Fundamentally, isn’t more seats for the average Joe and more seats for corporates a win win? I don’t quite understand the negativity to this aspect of it? This, but there is a little section of our current season ticket holders (by no means all, or even the majority) who are just wanting to bait non-season ticket holders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ben said: Our owners just paid £750 million for a golfer and £75 million to host a boxing event, I don't think they are short of a few bob They're not but they're not stupid either by paying huge amounts when it's not needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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