Guest given take Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Who do you think it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Jean Alain Boumsong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wor jackie Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 woodgate personally. never went to ground (apart from when injured) as his reading of the game was superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Bob Moncur, no doubt http://www.geocities.com/~shearyadi/hall/moncur.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest given take Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Bob moncur? i concur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stormrider Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 it's woodgate you mongs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Woodgate, if he had the injury record of someone like Lampard we would be a completely different team now! (although we probably wouldn't have been able to afford him!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Woodgate, if he had the injury record of someone like Lampard we would be a completely different team now! (although we probably wouldn't have been able to afford him!) Agree. Though if he had an injury record like Lampard he'd of been away to one of the top four a long time ago tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 The Prince of Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Ronny jonsen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Going on what I've seen Woodgate. Moncur was before my time unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I would be very surprised if Moncur had the ability level of Woodgate. Fact is on ability Woodgate is the best we've had. FACT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Moncur was a leader and strong, Woodgate was quicker and more assured on the ball, a close call but Woodgate would just shade it as the better player, but for contribution to the club it is Moncur without question as Woodgate wasn't here long enough. I thought Steve Howey at his peak few years was a better defender than Albert. Ollie Burton also played alongside Moncur, and was very underrated. He made the switch from being a defensive midfield player to a centre half, played in the Fairs Cup Winning team and the settled back four of Craig, Burton, Moncur, Clark played most of the games when we set our defensive record and played in the best overall defence we have had at Newcastle in my time. However, Irving Nattrass played most of his time at right back, like Ollie Burton he was versatile, but he should have played centre back because when he DID play there, he was the best IMO. When Gordon Lee was manager of Newcastle he saw this and tried to buy John Gidman from Villa to play right back and Nattrass in central defence, but he couldn't get Gidman so it didn't become a permanent switch like Burton did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Best I ever saw was Woodgate, but he wasn't around long enough to be described as the "greatest". Moncur, on the other hand, played 296 games in black and white, captained both Newcastle and Scotland, and led the Toon to victory in the Fairs Cup, scoring three goals in the two-legged final before hoisting the trophy – the only goals he ever scored for us. Can you compare his game to Woodgate's? I dunno. I saw him often enough when I was a kid, but memory dims. He was my hero back then, though. And Joe Harvey described him as "the supreme sweeper and a most valuable asset both to Newcastle United and Scotland". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Bill McCracken - the man who invented the modern off-side trap. Woodgate is by far the best defender I've seen in a Toon top and of any defender live at close quarters, simply an outstanding all-round defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Bill McCracken - the man who invented the modern off-side trap. Woodgate is by far the best defender I've seen in a Toon top and of any defender live at close quarters, simply an outstanding all-round defender. Indeed, like you mate I am interested in these old players, I would also like to have seen Frank Brennan, shame they don't have video clips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Aye, they reckon Brennan was a beast of a defender, a very tough man by all accounts. Read the stuff about him in the book of heroes? Fabulous stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Aye, they reckon Brennan was a beast of a defender, a very tough man by all accounts. Read the stuff about him in the book of heroes? Fabulous stuff. Do you mean the copy of "Cult Heroes" that I have signed by Tony Green and Malcolm Macdonald 8) Actually - not yet !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 McCracken is a good call, he was a right back though not a centre half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 McCracken is a good call, he was a right back though not a centre half Right half actually, i.e. right sided centre-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Aye, they reckon Brennan was a beast of a defender, a very tough man by all accounts. Read the stuff about him in the book of heroes? Fabulous stuff. Do you mean the copy of "Cult Heroes" that I have signed by Tony Green and Malcolm Macdonald 8) Actually - not yet !!!! It is a good read, very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I would say that Woodgate was better than Moncur but Moncur was more important to our history because of the games he played and what he won. I guess it would depend on how you came to the conclusion that one was better than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 McCracken is a good call, he was a right back though not a centre half Right half actually, i.e. right sided centre-back. ie a right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Woodgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 McCracken is a good call, he was a right back though not a centre half Right half actually, i.e. right sided centre-back. ie a right back. Wasn't this in the days when they played 2-4-4? Surely they only had two defenders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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