wacko Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I don't see how that's sickening at all. The writer isn't complaining about people born in the country, just naturalised players. We had exactly the same discussion here regarding Almunia playing for England. Same criticisms of the Irish team in '94. I'm not saying I agree with the article 100% but he has a point about players being born elsewhere and just adopting a nationality for convenience/opportunity. EDIT: However, if you do want to see some genuine xenophobia then look no further than the Hitler references in this thread, ffs. Except most of the players in question were born in Germany or moved here at a very young age. Cacau is the obvious "foreigner", as he came to Germany at the age of 20 or so as a salsa dancer. Klose was born in Poland, but his father is German (under German nationality rules). Questioning their German-ness is much like questioning the Englishness of Rio Ferdinand, Emile Heskey or Jermaine Pennant. Hardly. More like debating whether or not Giggs could/should have played for England. You're trying to turn it into something racial, which it quite clearly isn't. Article maybe poorly researched or use bad examples but the fundamental point isn't controversial in the slightest. Which fundamental point is this? Ryan Giggs could not have played for England. By the way, you do understand that "race" has nothing to do with where you're born. It's a genetic thing. Polish is no more a race than Mancunian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It's not going so well for Ballack. Chelsea fucked him off, Lahm doesn't want to give the captaincy back, Müller is wearing his number, and no-one thinks the German team needs him. On top of that, it's just come out that his agent, Michael Becker, was spouting off about some of the German squad being gay, and apparently also "half-gay", whatever that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Arjen Robben has been ruled out for the next 2 months with an injury. Can see Bayern struggling at the start of the Bundesliga even more now considering they had so many (13) players at the World Cup till the end. Will make the Bundesliga more exciting with Schalke, Hamburg and Leverkusen all stronger than last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Robben back to his usual injury prone self. Pity. Was thinking he was starting to get that past him after last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Robben back to his usual injury prone self. Pity. Was thinking he was starting to get that past him after last season. He played at the World Cup despite having an injury/not being fit. Don't think it's his fault this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Never said he is a malignerer, just that he's made of glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Werder are my German team, simply for that new kit. A definite purchase at some point in the next few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I know it`s a bit late but just saw Raul`s 2 goals on his debut against Bayern a week or 2 ago. The 2nd was a classic Raul chip over the keeper. Canny.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LukeT Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Look at Westfalenstadium sudtribune: http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Westfalenstadion8.jpg Terraces. The secret to amazing support and atmosphere. and to quote the article: In the wake of Hillsborough the German authorities considered following the English model of all-seater stadia but the objections of fans were listened to. Would be interesting to see if they'd have done that had 96 fans died in a German terraced stadium. Looking at that picture there seems no danger at all. Looks very spacious and big enough exits to get people out of need be. I went to Hillsborough on boxing day and the place is f***ing awful. Its falling to bits and still a deathtrap. I was in the upper tier and the concourse is ridiculously small. People cant get out the back of the stand quick enough after the game because the the crappy stairwell isn't wide enough. I don't think the problem is terracing, the problem is how the stadiums are designed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Decent article about St.Pauli with a few of the usual ciches attached. Still probably one of the best places in Europe to spend a weekend watching football, mind the toon's not that bad either ! http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/08/18/football.st.pauli.punks/index.html?hpt=C1#fbid=1M1-BbZVjAB&wom=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest koenji Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 some good goals in the Hamburg Schalke match especially Farfan`s......Van Nistelrooy with some classic poachers goals for Hamburg too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Aye, enjoyed that game. RVN still seems to have 'it'. His freekick off the bar was fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 any opinion on Lewis Holtby? English father but plays for Germany U-21's (English FA knew nowt about him)....doing well on loan at Mainz. Heard he's got family from Newcastle and travels here now and again to visit...........might be worth a punt in the summer if our scouts know anything. Certainly looks a very good prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 any opinion on Lewis Holtby? English father but plays for Germany U-21's (English FA knew nowt about him)....doing well on loan at Mainz. Heard he's got family from Newcastle and travels here now and again to visit...........might be worth a punt in the summer if our scouts know anything. Certainly looks a very good prospect. Saw Mainz play in December. Player who caught the eye was a Adam Szalai 22 year old 6'4" Hungarian centre forward - mobile and notched a couple but this is his first season in top league. Was interesting Liverpool but they went for someone else apparently. Checked programme and Holtby was playing - wish I'd taken more notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Only at St.Pauli German side St Pauli have asked the owners of one of their executive boxes to stop strippers performing during games after they installed a pole and mirror. "They can do what they like after games," said club president Stefan Orth. (Observer) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Only at St.Pauli German side St Pauli have asked the owners of one of their executive boxes to stop strippers performing during games after they installed a pole and mirror. "They can do what they like after games," said club president Stefan Orth. (Observer) Well, if the side played more interesting football, it wouldn't be an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Only at St.Pauli German side St Pauli have asked the owners of one of their executive boxes to stop strippers performing during games after they installed a pole and mirror. "They can do what they like after games," said club president Stefan Orth. (Observer) Well, if the side played more interesting football, it wouldn't be an issue. Was rumoured they were doing "specials" every time St.Pauli scored ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thump 1892 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've followed FC. Koln for a few years now. ...can't accuse me of being a gloryhunter like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 any opinion on Lewis Holtby? English father but plays for Germany U-21's (English FA knew nowt about him)....doing well on loan at Mainz. Heard he's got family from Newcastle and travels here now and again to visit...........might be worth a punt in the summer if our scouts know anything. Certainly looks a very good prospect. I thought his family were scousers? He's a big Everton fan because of his dad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've followed FC. Koln for a few years now. ...can't accuse me of being a gloryhunter like Thing is anyone could be accused of being a gloryhunter in the Bundesliga. Only league I feel at the start of the season anyone can win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Watch BvB dick Wolfsburg at the weekend. They play some really good stuff. So many young players, hope they can keep them all for next years Champions League. Nuri in particularly stood out for me. Agree with Chris though, really competitive league (despite BvB being lightyears top), so many different teams always challenge for the league. Always full grounds, big attendances and good atmospheres too - top stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Best league in Europe for me, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Its how a football league should be. Open, attractive, great atmosphere and built around the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Best league in Europe for me, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Its how a football league should be. Open, attractive, great atmosphere and built around the fans. Was about to say this. Good quality of football, too. Absolutely pisses all over the sterile commercialism of the Premier League. Really wish we had a league like the Bundesliga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 any opinion on Lewis Holtby? English father but plays for Germany U-21's (English FA knew nowt about him)....doing well on loan at Mainz. Heard he's got family from Newcastle and travels here now and again to visit...........might be worth a punt in the summer if our scouts know anything. Certainly looks a very good prospect. I thought his family were scousers? He's a big Everton fan because of his dad. yeah he/his father his an Evertonian but he said he has family here too....see last question in below link (also mentioned in another article that he has even been to St James` Park and loved the atmosphere here) http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2010/02/lewis-holtby-exclusive-interview/ another interesting read about the lad. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1317998/Lewis-Holtby-How-did-England-miss-boy-Midas-touch.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Would love a weekend in Germany where I'd go to Dortmund, Bayern and St Pauli home matches. We have a lot to learn from the Germans....the matchday experience sounds amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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