Guest graemeh72 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years Ardiles surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChickenKiev Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graemeh72 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 The dig at the Hitzfeld campaign is a bit crass imo and it's not the first time they've alluded to this place in an article. Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. And whatever you think about the rights and wrongs of the Hitzfeld campaign at least the people involved were trying to do something to benefit NUFC. I can't stand the miserable wankers at .com anymore. Typical of their negativity without insight or solutions. Alex begging to join the "dark side" what next!? Not really, I don't think I need to reiterate what I thought of the campaign. I just think they have a dig at this place because they see it as competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Dont you think that considering what Allardyce did at Bolton it would be improvement if we replace Roeder with him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc So they do all those adverts for free? Was only joking Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc Being the most influential Newcastle website? Surprised I even have to explain that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc So they do all those adverts for free? Was only joking Alex. I know but I'd hate to let anyone think I'd changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChickenKiev Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Dont you think that considering what Allardyce did at Bolton it would be improvement if we replace Roeder with him Why just look for an improvement? Bloody Gateshead's manager would be an improvement FFS. I think it's about time that if we did change management then Fred needs to start thinking about somebody who can turn this club around in the long run and get us playing some really good football. Sam has done a great job at Bolton with the resources he had available but he could have stayed there another 10 years and not won a thing IMO. I see determination in that Bolton side....but no class whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graemeh72 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc So they do all those adverts for free? Was only joking Alex. the ads cover costs of running the site but Niall and Biffa don't make a profit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Bottom line:- Roeder just IS NOT PREMIER STANDARD. He's not even Championship standard, man. He MUST go before he is given the chance to complete his hat trick and get us relegated next year. I agree with every word on nufc.com, and the problem is the fat b*stard. His unnerring ability to pick the worst possible manager for NUFC is eerie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graemeh72 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc Being the most influential Newcastle website? Surprised I even have to explain that tbh. Drop Biffa an email and have a chat to the bloke - I think you'll find that he isn't bothered about being the most influential site or any supposed threats. Its a labour of love rather than scoring Kudos points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheOrder Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc So they do all those adverts for free? Was only joking Alex. the ads cover costs of running the site but Niall and Biffa don't make a profit Are you their fuck buddy or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Dont you think that considering what Allardyce did at Bolton it would be improvement if we replace Roeder with him Why just look for an improvement? Bloody Gateshead's manager would be an improvement FFS. I think it's about time that if we did change management then Fred needs to start thinking about somebody who can turn this club around in the long run and get us playing some really good football. Sam has done a great job at Bolton with the resources he had available but he could have stayed there another 10 years and not won a thing IMO. I see determination in that Bolton side....but no class whatsoever. Completely agree with you. I also want someone like Benitez or Mourihno but we all know that Shepherd is not that smart and never will pay the manager 5-6m a season. So i guess Allardyce is the most realistic target at the moment and we better grab our chance now rather then waiting for next season when after the first 10 games of the season we will have 2 wins,3 draws and 6 defeats and Shepherd will be forced to sack Roeder and then maybe someone like Steve Bruce will come as a potential candidate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Dont you think that considering what Allardyce did at Bolton it would be improvement if we replace Roeder with him Why just look for an improvement? Bloody Gateshead's manager would be an improvement FFS. I think it's about time that if we did change management then Fred needs to start thinking about somebody who can turn this club around in the long run and get us playing some really good football. Sam has done a great job at Bolton with the resources he had available but he could have stayed there another 10 years and not won a thing IMO. I see determination in that Bolton side....but no class whatsoever. Unless Wenger comes knocking with a spare £100m in his pocket then I think you are going to be disappointed! This league has changed a hell of a lot since we were "entertainers" and did well. If you want to do well year in year out and doubt have years of building a squad under a world class manager (Arsenal) or huge sums being spent under another world class manager (Ferguson) then you arent going to get anywhere these days over a sustained playing entertaining football week in, week out. Even Chelsea and Liverpool have to play "boring" football to get results. Allardyce plays attractive football when he can but if he is up against better opposition he will play whatever way he thinks is best to get the best result and this is proving very succesful with an unfashionable squad built on a very tight budget. Basically anyone who think we can attract a manager who will get us playing stunning football every week while getting the right results its living in the past or a dream world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Bolton have finished above us for the past 3 seasons??? news to me to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Dont you think that considering what Allardyce did at Bolton it would be improvement if we replace Roeder with him Why just look for an improvement? Bloody Gateshead's manager would be an improvement FFS. I think it's about time that if we did change management then Fred needs to start thinking about somebody who can turn this club around in the long run and get us playing some really good football. Sam has done a great job at Bolton with the resources he had available but he could have stayed there another 10 years and not won a thing IMO. I see determination in that Bolton side....but no class whatsoever. Completely agree with you. I also want someone like Benitez or Mourihno but we all know that Shepherd is not that smart and never will pay the manager 5-6m a season. So i guess Allardyce is the most realistic target at the moment and we better grab our chance now rather then waiting for next season when after the first 10 games of the season we will have 2 wins,3 draws and 6 defeats and Shepherd will be forced to sack Roeder and then maybe someone like Steve Bruce will come as a potential candidate Because the two managers you give as examples play football you could sit and watch all day? Both basically play the same style as Bolton with a few more stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc Being the most influential Newcastle website? Surprised I even have to explain that tbh. Drop Biffa an email and have a chat to the bloke - I think you'll find that he isn't bothered about being the most influential site or any supposed threats. Its a labour of love rather than scoring Kudos points. Aye, I'll do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graemeh72 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. A threat to what exactly ? dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. I'm pretty sure that they don't see anybody as a threat ..... everybody has the right to an opinion on nufc So they do all those adverts for free? Was only joking Alex. the ads cover costs of running the site but Niall and Biffa don't make a profit Are you their f*** buddy or something? Chatted to Biffa a few times over the years, wouldn't call myself that - but sometimes bump into him at away games and say hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years Ardiles surely Ardiles didnt get the funds (thanks to McKeag Westwood and the other parasites) that those two prats got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Bottom line:- Roeder just IS NOT PREMIER STANDARD. He's not even Championship standard, man. He MUST go before he is given the chance to complete his hat trick and get us relegated next year. I agree with every word on nufc.com, and the problem is the fat b*stard. His unnerring ability to pick the worst possible manager for NUFC is eerie. Add in the fact that fair enough, Allardyce might not be ideal, but we HAVE to get better than Roeder ASAP, and you've got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststar Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Completely agree with you. I also want someone like Benitez or Mourihno but we all know that Shepherd is not that smart and never will pay the manager 5-6m a season. So i guess Allardyce is the most realistic target at the moment and we better grab our chance now rather then waiting for next season when after the first 10 games of the season we will have 2 wins,3 draws and 6 defeats and Shepherd will be forced to sack Roeder and then maybe someone like Steve Bruce will come as a potential candidate Because the two managers you give as examples play football you could sit and watch all day? Both basically play the same style as Bolton with a few more stars. Don't think so tbh...all teams have a strong emphasis on defence and building around a strong backline but I don't think you can say the basically have the same style. In the terms provided by Football Manager it seems generally liverpool like to play a "short passing" game whereas Bolton is more "direct". Chelsea would be similar to Bolton with a more direct style and usually playing one up front (ie Drogba) ...but that's my 2 cents worth.... almost missed the last bus...but thanks to some dude getting pissed and passing out in the bus I was able to catch and not walk home... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Probably see this and the main site as a bit of a threat imo. dot com isn't a money making venture Biffa and Niall started dot com out of passion and saw the internet as a media channel to communicate a non plc view of the club. biggest load of bollocks I read in a while, a count of their "advertsing partners" should be sufficient for even blind man to see them for what they are, which is a commericial site which must be extremely badly managed if they do not turn over a tidy profit. Hiding behind the, they are only fans spouting there opinions like the rest of us so are beyond criticism is nothing new and something invalidated when they took the £££ from the radio stations, betting companies, et al. They just got lucky, the site is just as popular for the domain name they were fortunate to register at the right time as the content they provide. Having said that, this article apart some of their recent stuff has been showing signs of improvement, love the alias of Pravda for the Chronicle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years Ardiles surely Ardiles didnt get the funds (thanks to McKeag Westwood and the other parasites) that those two prats got. Actually the football under Ardiles could never be described as boring, ineffective and niave but certainly not boring. Agree with Phil, Ossie just didn't get the funds, not suggesting he was a great manager but unlike Souness and Roeder he was never really a hate figure for the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I'd be devastated if we got Sam. Surely Fat Fred isn't that stupid to make 3 huge mistakes in a row!!! Without listing off a bunch of myths why wouldn't you want Allardyce here? He is exactly what we need at the moment. Someone who can build foundations for a succesful future whilst being able to get the best out of players and playing effective future in the present. Mainly for this reason: Style of play: While we've never subscribed to the popular notion that Newcastle fans would rather lose 4-3 than win a sterile contest 1-0, Allardyce has long been associated with some rotten football of a type we've not seen since Jack Charlton bought Cunningham & Reilly and put the squeeze on Waddle and Beardsley. Will a team of long-throw specialists and dead-ball experts fill 60,000 seats? Will a no-nonsense approach really get our players into line? Souness couldn't pull it off. Under Souness and Roeder we are playing the worst football this club has played in the last 20 years I agree....and? Dont you think that considering what Allardyce did at Bolton it would be improvement if we replace Roeder with him Why just look for an improvement? Bloody Gateshead's manager would be an improvement FFS. I think it's about time that if we did change management then Fred needs to start thinking about somebody who can turn this club around in the long run and get us playing some really good football. Sam has done a great job at Bolton with the resources he had available but he could have stayed there another 10 years and not won a thing IMO. I see determination in that Bolton side....but no class whatsoever. Completely agree with you. I also want someone like Benitez or Mourihno but we all know that Shepherd is not that smart and never will pay the manager 5-6m a season. So i guess Allardyce is the most realistic target at the moment and we better grab our chance now rather then waiting for next season when after the first 10 games of the season we will have 2 wins,3 draws and 6 defeats and Shepherd will be forced to sack Roeder and then maybe someone like Steve Bruce will come as a potential candidate Because the two managers you give as examples play football you could sit and watch all day? Both basically play the same style as Bolton with a few more stars. Aye you are right I should have give Wenger and Ferguson as examples not Mourihno and Benites But the 4 of them are probably the best managers in the world and my dream as a newcastle fan is if we can have that kind of manager one day. At the moment Allardyce is good manager,probably one of the best english managers out there but he is not world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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