Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Sibierski scored 8 goals this season. Give him a new 3 year contract. £80,000 a week. Dyer is not good enough. I agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations in the short term, and we definitely have players who are under performing but are good enough. Dyer is not one of them though. He has never done anything to justify all the hype he gets. All he has is pace. He might be good enough for a mid table team, but thats not where we want to be and thats exactly the reason Roeder is no longer our manager. If you don't want to be one of the teams who just make up the numbers in the Premiership then you have to get rid of the average players who don't perform and thats exactly what Dyer is. Dyer is NOT an average player...Average players don't play for your national team... Do i even have to try and argue back against this statement? Please do so...I wanna read it...I really do... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Sibierski scored 8 goals this season. Give him a new 3 year contract. £80,000 a week. Dyer is not good enough. I agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations in the short term, and we definitely have players who are under performing but are good enough. Dyer is not one of them though. He has never done anything to justify all the hype he gets. All he has is pace. He might be good enough for a mid table team, but thats not where we want to be and thats exactly the reason Roeder is no longer our manager. If you don't want to be one of the teams who just make up the numbers in the Premiership then you have to get rid of the average players who don't perform and thats exactly what Dyer is. Dyer is NOT an average player...Average players don't play for your national team... Jenas, Phill Neville etc Jenas is NOT an average player...Did you watch Kean's goal against Man City ? Did you see that volley...That was PES 6 stuff man... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Sibierski scored 8 goals this season. Give him a new 3 year contract. £80,000 a week. Dyer is not good enough. I agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations in the short term, and we definitely have players who are under performing but are good enough. Dyer is not one of them though. He has never done anything to justify all the hype he gets. All he has is pace. He might be good enough for a mid table team, but thats not where we want to be and thats exactly the reason Roeder is no longer our manager. If you don't want to be one of the teams who just make up the numbers in the Premiership then you have to get rid of the average players who don't perform and thats exactly what Dyer is. Dyer is NOT an average player...Average players don't play for your national team... Do i even have to try and argue back against this statement? Please do so...I wanna read it...I really do... Nah i can't even be arsed with it. It was ridiculous statement to make though. I take it you've never heard of Michael Gray, Steve Froggatt, Steve Guppy, Alan Thompson... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Ricketts, Powell, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Sibierski scored 8 goals this season. Give him a new 3 year contract. £80,000 a week. Dyer is not good enough. I agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations in the short term, and we definitely have players who are under performing but are good enough. Dyer is not one of them though. He has never done anything to justify all the hype he gets. All he has is pace. He might be good enough for a mid table team, but thats not where we want to be and thats exactly the reason Roeder is no longer our manager. If you don't want to be one of the teams who just make up the numbers in the Premiership then you have to get rid of the average players who don't perform and thats exactly what Dyer is. Dyer is NOT an average player...Average players don't play for your national team... Do i even have to try and argue back against this statement? Please do so...I wanna read it...I really do... Nah i can't even be arsed with it. It was ridiculous statement to make though. I take it you've never heard of Michael Gray, Steve Froggatt, Steve Guppy, Alan Thompson... No I havn't but why mention those ? Who are the average England players in your opinion ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 The players he mentioned are average players that have played for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Sibierski scored 8 goals this season. Give him a new 3 year contract. £80,000 a week. Dyer is not good enough. I agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations in the short term, and we definitely have players who are under performing but are good enough. Dyer is not one of them though. He has never done anything to justify all the hype he gets. All he has is pace. He might be good enough for a mid table team, but thats not where we want to be and thats exactly the reason Roeder is no longer our manager. If you don't want to be one of the teams who just make up the numbers in the Premiership then you have to get rid of the average players who don't perform and thats exactly what Dyer is. Dyer is NOT an average player...Average players don't play for your national team... Do i even have to try and argue back against this statement? Please do so...I wanna read it...I really do... Nah i can't even be arsed with it. It was ridiculous statement to make though. I take it you've never heard of Michael Gray, Steve Froggatt, Steve Guppy, Alan Thompson... No I havn't but why mention those ? Who are the average England players in your opinion ? Go and find a skip, preferably one with a lid on and sit in the fucker for a few hours mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Ricketts, Powell, etc... How many games Ricketts got anyway ? Not many as I remember and I don't think he played that many minutes against strong teams anyway...BTW Ricketts was playing alright when he was asked to join the national team so you have to give players their chances if they are doing better than expected for their clubs... I wouldn't think any of the current first XI are average players at all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 The players he mentioned are average players that have played for England. And for how many games During the world cup too Who are those England national teams players who have been capped for 20+ and you consider them still average I am really interested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 The players he mentioned are average players that have played for England. And for how many games During the world cup too Who are those England national teams players who have been capped for 20+ and you consider them still average I am really interested Sewpa Kev? Ray Parlour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Phill Neville Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Carlton Palmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Craig Hope's posts on here back in the day had more sway than the absolute shit he writes on that site. What was it last week, record number of penalty takers in a season? WOW! To be fair, a man has got to make a living. It was obvious that he sought a career in Newcastle sports journalism, and to get half far in that field, you have to follow a certain line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Carlton Banks. http://jeep2483.tripod.com/alfonso01.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Phill Neville That's why he is Manchester United's captain and has been playing for Alex Furgison for how many years now I'll let you answer these questions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Are you getting your Nevilles mixed up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Are you getting your Nevilles mixed up? Opps sorry...OK yes...Phill we are talking about here...Well he is not one of the England XI is he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Neither is Dyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Neither is Dyer. And I should have added that I don't think Phill is an average player either...He has been doing great for Everton... Also I think Dyer when fit and available for selection, would have a better chance of getting some playing time with England than Phill, don't you think ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Crazy Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Not bad considering he has just come back from injuries but next year we would need him to hit 10 goals minimum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Not bad considering he has just come back from injuries but next year we would need him to hit 10 goals minimum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dyer is a good footballer who has no natural position, and whichever position you put him in, he has some sort of weakness that makes him unsuitable for said position. - Has no distribution so unsuitable for central midfield. - Dislikes playing out wide, wants to be "involved" so drifts out of position, cannot cross, doesnt know how to play as either a direct winger or a free role wide attacker, all making him unsuitable as a winger. - Has no range of finishing (can only pass it into the net), drops extremely deep to pick the ball up isolating his strike partner, has no attacking instincts, is rarely on the end of a cross. In short, hes never a forward. Good player, and we shouldnt be getting rid of our better ones as hes another "talented" player who when on form sets us apart from the other mid table and below no-hopers, but on top of not having a position in the team, hes also a crock with a poor attitude and on massive wages. Ged rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I don't know about Dyer. During our all-too-brief mid season resurgence, he was our best player by far. You can't really blame him for going completely anonymous after Alkmar, as everyone else on the squad not named Milner has managed to do the same as well. Yes, I do think he's a weak-willed, selfish, petulant kid, but he's also bloody talented when he cares and he's not getting mopey. No one's going to buy him anyway, so might as well give him another shot next season. If the rest of the team is playing good, he'll be a class player. If not... Wooosh there's a difference between anoynous and 'can't be arsed' And i'm very soft on players. I've stood by the likes of Robert, Kluivert and Dyer for a long time. But every game since the chelsea one, Dyer has looked like a complacent, lazy, dick. I didnt join in with the chants, but i agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 We need a manager who will not tip-toe around problems like Dyer. He lives off his reputation, he's not good enough and couldnt give a crap, get rid asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Sibierski scored 8 goals this season. Give him a new 3 year contract. £80,000 a week. Dyer is not good enough. I agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations in the short term, and we definitely have players who are under performing but are good enough. Dyer is not one of them though. He has never done anything to justify all the hype he gets. All he has is pace. He might be good enough for a mid table team, but thats not where we want to be and thats exactly the reason Roeder is no longer our manager. If you don't want to be one of the teams who just make up the numbers in the Premiership then you have to get rid of the average players who don't perform and thats exactly what Dyer is. Dyer is NOT an average player...Average players don't play for your national team... Hahahaahahahah!!! :lol: :lol: Emile Heskey, Phil Neville, Jenas...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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