Guest Gemmill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? God knows what he is on about. We love that shit in Gosforth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Tbh, one of the best things you could do for Newcastle would be to extend the metro into the West End like they were planning on doing a few years back. It's all very well pissing about on the Quayside and in Ouseburn, but the areas that need 'gentrified' (to use a horrible fucking word) are all down the other end of the city. You stick a few Metro stops in there and house prices will rise, facilities will improve and will lead to an improvement in people's lives in areas which have been ignored for decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Tbh, one of the best things you could do for Newcastle would be to extend the metro into the West End like they were planning on doing a few years back. It's all very well pissing about on the Quayside and in Ouseburn, but the areas that need 'gentrified' (to use a horrible fucking word) are all down the other end of the city. You stick a few Metro stops in there and house prices will rise, facilities will improve and will lead to an improvement in people's lives in areas which have been ignored for decades. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? I'm not saying we are all like that, but howay Gemmill, the vast majority couldn't care less and would rather see money being spent on more important things rather that dolling up the city centre. I'm saying we, as in most who live in the city, don't have the temprement for big super casinos, pathside caffes (least of all the weather) and the whole theme bar style move the City is heading towards. It seems to me like the city is being built for tourists and visitors and not the people who actually live here. Now I wouldn't mind if there was a balance but there isn't. The City is more than just the centre and the powers that be need to turn their eyes outwards and start making moves to make things better outside of the centre for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 now....what does this have to do with football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? I'm not saying we are all like that, but howay Gemmill, the vast majority couldn't care less and would rather see money being spent on more important things rather that dolling up the city centre. I'm saying we, as in most who live in the city, don't have the temprement for big super casinos, pathside caffes (least of all the weather) and the whole theme bar style move the City is heading towards. It seems to me like the city is being built for tourists and visitors and not the people who actually live here. Now I wouldn't mind if there was a balance but there isn't. The City is more than just the centre and the powers that be need to turn their eyes outwards and start making moves to make things better outside of the centre for us. I don't have a problem with them trying to make the city centre a nicer place to visit tbh. When you go abroad to a nice city you go and look for the stuff you're saying we don't have the temperament for here. People like stuff like that and the city is much better off for a lot of the redevelopment that's been done on the quayside etc - there's a lot more to be proud of about Newcastle as a city in terms of how it looks, what there is to do etc than there was 10 years ago. Theme bars are a different kettle of fish and are shit without exception. I'm not saying that it should be done at the expense of poorer areas, but if we took the "we don't have the temperament for culture or nice things" attitude, the place would be a shithole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 now....what does this have to do with football? Interesting question! I may have an answer, although its not a Newcastle story so bear with me. First things first, this casino is going to be built at SportCity (Where the City of Manchester Stadium is, there's a whole load of other shit there like an Athletics track, squash courts and whatnot) Secondly, someone who is very interested in this super-casino gubbins is a guy called Philip Anshutz. An American Billionaire who owns the Millenium Dome (Which was also in contention for this), as well as the MEN Arena, and a whole stack of sports teams including 3 in the MLS (LA Galaxy among them), LA Lakers, LA Kings... Thirdly, on 29/12/06, PurelyManCity suggested that this guy was the mystery man behind a reported takeover at City. (Good site) I can't help but feel that this news would make him very interested. And even if its not going to result in some jolly old leprechaun bring us his pot o' gold, we should at least see the Metrolink extended into East Manchester as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? I'm not saying we are all like that, but howay Gemmill, the vast majority couldn't care less and would rather see money being spent on more important things rather that dolling up the city centre. I'm saying we, as in most who live in the city, don't have the temprement for big super casinos, pathside caffes (least of all the weather) and the whole theme bar style move the City is heading towards. It seems to me like the city is being built for tourists and visitors and not the people who actually live here. Now I wouldn't mind if there was a balance but there isn't. The City is more than just the centre and the powers that be need to turn their eyes outwards and start making moves to make things better outside of the centre for us. I don't have a problem with them trying to make the city centre a nicer place to visit tbh. When you go abroad to a nice city you go and look for the stuff you're saying we don't have the temperament for here. People like stuff like that and the city is much better off for a lot of the redevelopment that's been done on the quayside etc - there's a lot more to be proud of about Newcastle as a city in terms of how it looks, what there is to do etc than there was 10 years ago. Theme bars are a different kettle of fish and are shit without exception. I'm not saying that it should be done at the expense of poorer areas, but if we took the "we don't have the temperament for culture or nice things" attitude, the place would be a shithole. I'd also prefer it if they started following the trend of most European cities and staying up late into the night, why the hell does everything close so damn early. Nothing to stop places stopping open 24-7, works just fine in London as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? I'm not saying we are all like that, but howay Gemmill, the vast majority couldn't care less and would rather see money being spent on more important things rather that dolling up the city centre. I'm saying we, as in most who live in the city, don't have the temprement for big super casinos, pathside caffes (least of all the weather) and the whole theme bar style move the City is heading towards. It seems to me like the city is being built for tourists and visitors and not the people who actually live here. Now I wouldn't mind if there was a balance but there isn't. The City is more than just the centre and the powers that be need to turn their eyes outwards and start making moves to make things better outside of the centre for us. I don't have a problem with them trying to make the city centre a nicer place to visit tbh. When you go abroad to a nice city you go and look for the stuff you're saying we don't have the temperament for here. People like stuff like that and the city is much better off for a lot of the redevelopment that's been done on the quayside etc - there's a lot more to be proud of about Newcastle as a city in terms of how it looks, what there is to do etc than there was 10 years ago. Theme bars are a different kettle of fish and are shit without exception. I'm not saying that it should be done at the expense of poorer areas, but if we took the "we don't have the temperament for culture or nice things" attitude, the place would be a shithole. Like I said, I don't have a problem if it is balanced, but it isn't, the city gets all the attention, money and changes while the rest gets ignored or placated with new windows, new roofs and bastard road works to retar the roads, sorry but these places need more than that Mr Council. My temprement comments were daft I know, but I do believe if givena choice between a Casino or better transport, we'd choose the transport option. Yet the decision makers think we all want to go to the Sage, take their buses for a tour of the Quay etc. when we don't. Some obviously do but it seems like the city is building for the few and not the majority. Have you checked out the prices for the Sage? As if someone from the West End is going to go every week. But then all the councilors who make these decisions live in Gosforth and Jesmond in big expensive houses detached from reality or the people they represent, which includes the West End, Walker, Wallsend etc. and not just the city centre. And this isn't poor little me with a chip on my shoulder here either, as much as I may come across as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? I'm not saying we are all like that, but howay Gemmill, the vast majority couldn't care less and would rather see money being spent on more important things rather that dolling up the city centre. I'm saying we, as in most who live in the city, don't have the temprement for big super casinos, pathside caffes (least of all the weather) and the whole theme bar style move the City is heading towards. It seems to me like the city is being built for tourists and visitors and not the people who actually live here. Now I wouldn't mind if there was a balance but there isn't. The City is more than just the centre and the powers that be need to turn their eyes outwards and start making moves to make things better outside of the centre for us. I don't have a problem with them trying to make the city centre a nicer place to visit tbh. When you go abroad to a nice city you go and look for the stuff you're saying we don't have the temperament for here. People like stuff like that and the city is much better off for a lot of the redevelopment that's been done on the quayside etc - there's a lot more to be proud of about Newcastle as a city in terms of how it looks, what there is to do etc than there was 10 years ago. Theme bars are a different kettle of fish and are shit without exception. I'm not saying that it should be done at the expense of poorer areas, but if we took the "we don't have the temperament for culture or nice things" attitude, the place would be a shithole. Like I said, I don't have a problem if it is balanced, but it isn't, the city gets all the attention, money and changes while the rest gets ignored or placated with new windows, new roofs and bastard road works to retar the roads, sorry but these places need more than that Mr Council. My temprement comments were daft I know, but I do believe if givena choice between a Casino or better transport, we'd choose the transport option. Yet the decision makers think we all want to go to the Sage, take their buses for a tour of the Quay etc. when we don't. Some obviously do but it seems like the city is building for the few and not the majority. Have you checked out the prices for the Sage? As if someone from the West End is going to go every week. But then all the councilors who make these decisions live in Gosforth and Jesmond in big expensive houses detached from reality or the people they represent, which includes the West End, Walker, Wallsend etc. and not just the city centre. And this isn't poor little me with a chip on my shoulder here either, as much as I may come across as such. Aye, your average Walker opera enthusiast has been priced right out of things by the Sage. I've been to a couple of concerts at the Sage tbh, and the prices were the same as you would pay to go to the Academy or the Arena. I've got no argument on poorer areas needing development, because I know they do, but it's not like we have been given a choice between a casino or public transport. The two are independent of one another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 They think this place is the new Paris, Amsterdam or something with all those pavement caffes, boulevards and arty farty shite. We don't have the temprement for those things. Speak for yourself, thick fuck. Don't have the temperament for what? A cafe? A casino? What ARE you talking about? I'm not saying we are all like that, but howay Gemmill, the vast majority couldn't care less and would rather see money being spent on more important things rather that dolling up the city centre. I'm saying we, as in most who live in the city, don't have the temprement for big super casinos, pathside caffes (least of all the weather) and the whole theme bar style move the City is heading towards. It seems to me like the city is being built for tourists and visitors and not the people who actually live here. Now I wouldn't mind if there was a balance but there isn't. The City is more than just the centre and the powers that be need to turn their eyes outwards and start making moves to make things better outside of the centre for us. I don't have a problem with them trying to make the city centre a nicer place to visit tbh. When you go abroad to a nice city you go and look for the stuff you're saying we don't have the temperament for here. People like stuff like that and the city is much better off for a lot of the redevelopment that's been done on the quayside etc - there's a lot more to be proud of about Newcastle as a city in terms of how it looks, what there is to do etc than there was 10 years ago. Theme bars are a different kettle of fish and are shit without exception. I'm not saying that it should be done at the expense of poorer areas, but if we took the "we don't have the temperament for culture or nice things" attitude, the place would be a shithole. Like I said, I don't have a problem if it is balanced, but it isn't, the city gets all the attention, money and changes while the rest gets ignored or placated with new windows, new roofs and bastard road works to retar the roads, sorry but these places need more than that Mr Council. My temprement comments were daft I know, but I do believe if givena choice between a Casino or better transport, we'd choose the transport option. Yet the decision makers think we all want to go to the Sage, take their buses for a tour of the Quay etc. when we don't. Some obviously do but it seems like the city is building for the few and not the majority. Have you checked out the prices for the Sage? As if someone from the West End is going to go every week. But then all the councilors who make these decisions live in Gosforth and Jesmond in big expensive houses detached from reality or the people they represent, which includes the West End, Walker, Wallsend etc. and not just the city centre. And this isn't poor little me with a chip on my shoulder here either, as much as I may come across as such. Aye, your average Walker opera enthusiast has been priced right out of things by the Sage. I've been to a couple of concerts at the Sage tbh, and the prices were the same as you would pay to go to the Academy or the Arena. I've got no argument on poorer areas needing development, because I know they do, but it's not like we have been given a choice between a casino or public transport. The two are independent of one another. And let's be fair, the boost to the economy, not to mention the hundreds if not thousands of new jobs created, would have undoubtedly had a knock on effect on budgets for transport and the like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What size are they talking about for this casino? Is it Vegas baby, Vegas sized with a hotel and that? That would have generated loads of jobs and money tbh. Not to mention a life-sized Sphinx or something in the middle of the town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Well the Newcastle bid included all sorts, "commercial and retail outlets, residential apartments, a hotel, leisure and entertainment facilities and a Las Vegas style casino of approximately 100,000 square feet". Newcastle the club would have had joint ownership and presumably joint profits. As it stands now though, we have lost that along with the £5 million MGM gave us as a sweetener a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Well the Newcastle bid included all sorts, "commercial and retail outlets, residential apartments, a hotel, leisure and entertainment facilities and a Las Vegas style casino of approximately 100,000 square feet". Newcastle the club would have had joint ownership and presumably joint profits. As it stands now though, we have lost that along with the £5 million MGM gave us as a sweetener a few years ago. Knackers. What's the bets we haven't got that £5m to give them back. I can see the MGM bloke knocking on the door at St. James with Freddy and Glenn hidden underneath the board table. "Go away. There's nobody here but us mice." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What size are they talking about for this casino? Is it Vegas baby, Vegas sized with a hotel and that? That would have generated loads of jobs and money tbh. Not to mention a life-sized Sphinx or something in the middle of the town. http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_politics_enl_1170159528/img/1.jpg I'm not sure which one of those is the Casino "The casino would be based at Sportcity in the Beswick area, close to the City of Manchester Stadium. The proposed site will also contain an entertainment complex with a range of facilities such as a multi-purpose arena, a swimming pool, an urban sports venue, restaurants, bars, a nightclub and a hotel. " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What size are they talking about for this casino? Is it Vegas baby, Vegas sized with a hotel and that? That would have generated loads of jobs and money tbh. Not to mention a life-sized Sphinx or something in the middle of the town. http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_politics_enl_1170159528/img/1.jpg I'm not sure which one of those is the Casino "The casino would be based at Sportcity in the Beswick area, close to the City of Manchester Stadium. The proposed site will also contain an entertainment complex with a range of facilities such as a multi-purpose arena, a swimming pool, an urban sports venue, restaurants, bars, a nightclub and a hotel. " Looks canny good actually. I fail to see why anyone would turn their noses up at something like that in Newcastle. Good luck to Manchester with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What size are they talking about for this casino? Is it Vegas baby, Vegas sized with a hotel and that? That would have generated loads of jobs and money tbh. Not to mention a life-sized Sphinx or something in the middle of the town. http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_politics_enl_1170159528/img/1.jpg I'm not sure which one of those is the Casino "The casino would be based at Sportcity in the Beswick area, close to the City of Manchester Stadium. The proposed site will also contain an entertainment complex with a range of facilities such as a multi-purpose arena, a swimming pool, an urban sports venue, restaurants, bars, a nightclub and a hotel. " The most unrealistic photoshop job ever. There''s blue sky ffs, it always rains in Manchester. FACT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thommo78 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 One of the reasons I think Freddy was reluctant to sell was because he wanted to see the outcome of this and saw the pound signs flashing in front of his eyes. He may be more willing to sell now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Not really been following this much, but does no one else find it ridiculous Manchester got this, as well as the Commonwealth games? Not that I'm arsed about the Common' Games as a spectacle, but surely it regenerated that area of Manchester enough (I think the Casino is going in the same area)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Depends who offered the highest backhanders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 What size are they talking about for this casino? Is it Vegas baby, Vegas sized with a hotel and that? That would have generated loads of jobs and money tbh. Not to mention a life-sized Sphinx or something in the middle of the town. http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_politics_enl_1170159528/img/1.jpg I'm not sure which one of those is the Casino "The casino would be based at Sportcity in the Beswick area, close to the City of Manchester Stadium. The proposed site will also contain an entertainment complex with a range of facilities such as a multi-purpose arena, a swimming pool, an urban sports venue, restaurants, bars, a nightclub and a hotel. " The most unrealistic photoshop job ever. There''s blue sky ffs, it always rains in Manchester. FACT is that the side of the stadium on the left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest king harry Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 According to sky news, it will create 2700 jobs, and generate 250 million within 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 is that the side of the stadium on the left? Ya...Here's a different picture http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/Blue71/NewPicture.jpg You can see the place where crazy mugs chuck money down the drain in the vain hope of one day winning something there...and theres the casino on the left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Why they wasted the spot in Manchester i do not know. Its a disgrace. I would of liked it to be here, but it belonged to Blackpool. Arsholes who decide shit like this, probably the same fuking clueless cunts who picked Liverpool as City of Culture! Culture FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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