Guest Guinness Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 If the Premier League decide to block this move because West Ham still don't own his rights surely he shouldn't be able to play for them either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 im expecting more... Hargreaves Carrick Scholes Ronaldo Tevez Rooney Anderson/Nani going in any of the more attacking 4 positions Hoy Giggs into the mix too and you're talking some serious potential there. Quality and depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 If the Premier League decide to block this move because West Ham still don't own his rights surely he shouldn't be able to play for them either? Fuck it tbh. It's not like they're going to lose any points over it are they?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bellers Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 There's no denying the Mancs will be up there challenging for the title next season, but I'm not sure they'll significantly improve on last year's finish: Not sure what the fuss is regarding Nani and Anderson, they've looked very average on the several occassions I've seen them, add to the fact they have to adjust to the English game and they are two risky signings when you consider the price payed for them. Despite the hype regarding Hargreaves he really is nothing amazing. Yes he's had a couple of decent performances for England but does that warrant the price tag payed for him? Part of the reason they were so fluent last season was that they had two very good distributors of the ball in the middle of the park in Carrick and Scholes, Hargreaves may disturb the balance created by displacing one of these two players... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 There's no denying the Mancs will be up there challenging for the title next season, but I'm not sure they'll significantly improve on last year's finish: Not sure what the fuss is regarding Nani and Anderson, they've looked very average on the several occassions I've seen them, add to the fact they have to adjust to the English game and they are two risky signings when you consider the price payed for them. Despite the hype regarding Hargreaves he really is nothing amazing. Yes he's had a couple of decent performances for England but does that warrant the price tag payed for him? Part of the reason they were so fluent last season was that they had two very good distributors of the ball in the middle of the park in Carrick and Scholes, Hargreaves may disturb the balance created by displacing one of these two players... Anderson has all of the potential to be the real deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 There's no denying the Mancs will be up there challenging for the title next season, but I'm not sure they'll significantly improve on last year's finish: No better than 1st, oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Tevez's £30m United move puts pressure on Hammers for answers By Jason Burt Published: 06 July 2007 Carlos Tevez is set to sign for Manchester United in the next two days in a deal that could be worth up to £30m. The Argentine will fly directly from the Copa America in Venezuela to join up with United's pre-season tour to the United States on Monday. However the transfer could lead to a round of legal action with his present club, West Ham United, fearing they will be urged by the Premier League to clarify Tevez's registration and ownership by taking Kia Joorabchian, the businessman who owns his economic rights, to court. In the light of the highly-sensitive inquiry into Tevez's transfer to Upton Park, West Ham would clearly not want to take that step. There are concerns at the club as to exactly how they can now extricate themselves from the saga without hurt being caused especially as Joorabchian could present potentially damaging evidence against them in court. Tevez will sign a two-year deal at United with a "loan fee" of between £4m-£8m a year being paid. None of that will go to West Ham, even though they hold his registration and claim that he is "their player". Instead the money will be received by Joorabchian and the companies that control Tevez. United will then have an "exclusive option" in the second year of buying the striker out-right. That fee is expected to be between £14m-£22m. When Tevez signs for United the Premiership champions will hold his registration. However Joorabchian will still retain the 23-year-old's "ownership and economic rights" until a permanent deal is agreed. Although controversial it does not break the Premier League rules which allow for third-party ownership of players but which preclude the existence of so-called "side agreements" which allow that third-party influence over the club. United are annoyed that news of Tevez's transfer has leaked - it was blurted out by the player to Fox TV in South America on Thursday - but the revelation does not jeopardises the deal. Interest in Tevez has been shown by Chelsea, Real Madrid, Liverpool and Internazionale. But it is United who have made their move adding to the £50m spending spree they have already embarked on this summer as they build on last season's successes. Tevez's departure will come as a relief to the West Ham hierarchy even if they know they are losing an outstanding player. The last thing they will now want is for the circumstances surrounding the deal to be pored over once more, especially in court. But that may be unavoidable if the Premier League decide to raise objections. * Sheffield United are to appeal to the High Court over their relegation from the Premier League. The move follows an arbitration panel's dismissal of their claim that West Ham should have been deducted points over the signings of Tevez and Javier Mascherano. The appeal will be heard on 13 July. United's arrivals Owen Hargreaves (26, mid) Bayern Munich £17m Anderson (19, mid) Porto £17m Nani (20, mid) Sporting Lisbon £17m Tomasz Kuszczak (25, gk) WBA undisclosed Total: £51m United buy now but pay later to stay on budget How have Manchester United, laden with £660m of debt, suddenly managed to find £71m in one summer to outspend their rivals? It's the question that some fans are asking. And the simple answer is: they haven't. The headline figures of United's transfer window are £17m, £17m, £17m and £20m. Those are amounts United have agreed to pay for Anderson, Nani, Owen Hargreaves, and, perhaps, Carlos Tevez. This is not the whole story. The Glazers' expenditure may be below the £25m they originally promised Sir Alex Ferguson. How? Tevez, 23, will arrive on a two-year loan deal, and although that might cost a yearly fee of £4m to £8m, buying him outright can be deferred to a future year's accounts, if they exercise their option. Brazil's Anderson, 19, and Portugal's Nani, 20, are being bought effectively on HP. United are understood to have paid £7m and £8m up front, and will pay the rest over the terms of the deals. And while Hargreaves, 26, has cost a chunk up front, he became a United player only on 1 July, and the outlay falls into next year's accounts. So instead of £70m, United have spent only £20m already. Three of the players have a decade of playing ahead, and Hargreaves should have his peak years in Manchester. United are investing in the future, which is when the payments will be spread. Nick Harris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloydie Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 The PL are trying to block the move because West Ham *do* own his rights, or at least claimed that they do in order to keep playing him last year. If the courts don't find this to be the case then Sheffield Utd have even more reasons to be pissed off than they do now... http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2120117,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WalkervilleMag Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 The PL are trying to block the move because West Ham *do* own his rights, or at least claimed that they do in order to keep playing him last year. If the courts don't find this to be the case then Sheffield Utd have even more reasons to be pissed off than they do now... http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2120117,00.html I said that when it happened, West Ham said they ripped up the old contract, and done a new contract. So how can you legally rip up a contract, then make a new one, then claim to own the player. This Israeli bloke still owns Tevez, and and has not been paid anything yet. Any transfer fee belongs to him, and just shows what a massive cock up the Premier League have made in not docking West Ham points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 The PL are trying to block the move because West Ham *do* own his rights, or at least claimed that they do in order to keep playing him last year. If the courts don't find this to be the case then Sheffield Utd have even more reasons to be pissed off than they do now... http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2120117,00.html I said that when it happened, West Ham said they ripped up the old contract, and done a new contract. So how can you legally rip up a contract, then make a new one, then claim to own the player. This Israeli bloke still owns Tevez, and and has not been paid anything yet. Any transfer fee belongs to him, and just shows what a massive cock up the Premier League have made in not docking West Ham points. He is NOT israeli...I think he is of Iranian background...Armenian from Iran to be more precise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 you have to laugh remembering the old west ham board denying these signings had only arrived to be in the shop window for the big clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedin Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 What a total shambles. WHU are understandably nervous and Sheffield have every right to insist on a further enquiry as to the reality of his ownership. I would love to see West ham get shafted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 SSN Breaking News: Manure close to signing Tevez on 2 year loan deal. Dodgy as owt, WHU blatantly fucked. Manure signing 3rd party players too, point deductions all round I say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shido Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 This is fucking confusing....SSN saying his deal at west ham was a 1 year loan deal....but something about him technically still being a west ham player? Confusing....... 3rd party players = fucking dodgy as the dr. says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bellers Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Just caught the end of that article so let me get this straight: Tevez was at West Ham on a one year loan deal. He will be joining the Mancs on a two year loan deal. This loan deal can be extended for a further three years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DavB93 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 This is fucking confusing....SSN saying his deal at west ham was a 1 year loan deal....but something about him technically still being a west ham player? Confusing....... 3rd party players = fucking dodgy as the dr. says. Sure Viduka is a 3rd party player, well he definetely was when at Celtic and Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bellers Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 So if this is the situation with Tevez, what's the state of play with Mascherano? Isn't he being loaned form West Ham to Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 So if this is the situation with Tevez, what's the state of play with Mascherano? Isn't he being loaned form West Ham to Liverpool? He's on loan from MSI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon83 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 MSI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brewer Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Kia Joorabchians company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 MSI? Awesome band. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 MSI? Awesome band. Make good computer components too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 http://www.whufc.com/articles/article.php?page_id=9272 The following is an official statement from West Ham United Chairman Eggert Magnusson... "Carlos Tevez is a registered West Ham United player, contracted to the Club until June 2010. "There is no agreement with West Ham United for Carlos Tevez to leave the Club and we expect him to return in time for next season's preparations. "No decision on his future can be reached without the agreement of West Ham United." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hagler Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Daily Mail's Sports editor has said expect a statement from Kia Joorabchian soon, possibly in the next hour. It is gonna favour a move to Manchester United. this is getting weird the man u forums are going berserk...im having a right laugh reading there posts. but it is a strange transfer or maybe non transfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Hope this deal goes through or I'm going to have to completely rework my fantasy team. Rooney and Tevez would be a shoe in for ugliest strikeforce now Bellamy and Crouch are no more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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