Dyer's House Attacked by Yobs.

[Heron]

Firstly, I would like to stress that it wasn't the Toon Ultras who did any of this like someone suggested.

 

Secondly, the throwing of eggs and surrounding of his car are pretty pathetic, and pointless. It just gives the press an excuse to slate us again. Yet i don't blame people for doing it, the bloke is a w*****, and deserves everything he gets short of a kick in.

 

I am not going to condone it either, but i understand peoples frustrations.

[Guest Gemmill]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a shit (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the fuck are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful bastard?"  He can't fucking win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

[beardsleymagic]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

[beardsleymagic]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

[OzzieMandias]

The level of hate being directed against Dyer is irrational. Full stop.

 

So it was only eggs that were thrown, but it's the same mentality that has driven pogroms throughout history. Ok, they were kids, but if they were mine I'd smack them.

[Dave]

 

Just give up Gemmill. This lot just won't accept that agreeing with/condoning/'understanding' this kind of action is for the socially and mentally disabled. And those three opinions are the same btw.

 

You either agree this kind of thing is laughably moronic or you don't. There's no 'understanding' in between.

[beardsleymagic]

The level of hate being directed against Dyer is irrational. Full stop.

 

So it was only eggs that were thrown, but it's the same mentality that has driven pogroms throughout history. Ok, they were kids, but if they were mine I'd smack them.

 

I totally agree with you, if they were my kids I would too. As I said I don't for one minute condone what they did or the idiots banging on his car.

 

But I still stand by what I said about Dyer.

 

[Parky]

This kind of incident can hurt a players feelings.

[Guest Gemmill]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

 

For the money spent on medical fees?  I was playing the part of the idiots who, having wanted the bloke to leave the club for years, are now slating him for finally succumbing to the pressure and wanting to go himself.

 

As for "Saint Dyer", he's done a LOT less than people make out.  A couple of regrettable incidents that I'm sure he wished he hadn't been involved in, and then being a long term injury sufferer.  Oh and he got well paid, big deal, he's a professional footballer

 

Ask yourself this though - if he HADN'T been injured as often as he has, if we'd got 40 games a season out of him over all these years, would people still despise him like they do for an incident with the captain's armband, and for having a piss in the street?  I bet they fucking wouldn't, which just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is.  In the main he's despised for having been injured.  The other incidents are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

[Northern Monkey]

Booing the little skank during the match is one thing, but the egging was (whilst funny on one very small level) obviously wrong.

[Guest Gemmill]

 

Just give up Gemmill. This lot just won't accept that agreeing with/condoning/'understanding' this kind of action is for the socially and mentally disabled. And those three opinions are the same btw.

 

You either agree this kind of thing is laughably moronic or you don't. There's no 'understanding' in between.

 

  I know I should, but I'm trying to rehabilitate these spanners.  I believe in NO as a form of therapy for the feeble-minded.

 

Seriously though, I agree with your point re understanding/condoning.

[Parky]

 

Just give up Gemmill. This lot just won't accept that agreeing with/condoning/'understanding' this kind of action is for the socially and mentally disabled. And those three opinions are the same btw.

 

You either agree this kind of thing is laughably moronic or you don't. There's no 'understanding' in between.

 

  I know I should, but I'm trying to rehabilitate these spanners.  I believe in NO as a form of therapy for the feeble-minded.

 

Seriously though, I agree with your point re understanding/condoning.

 

Gemmill in Dyer cause celebre shock!

[Guest Gemmill]

Parky, if you're going to keep interjecting with one-liners, at least try to make them funny.

[beardsleymagic]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

 

For the money spent on medical fees?  I was playing the part of the idiots who, having wanted the bloke to leave the club for years, are now slating him for finally succumbing to the pressure and wanting to go himself.

 

As for "Saint Dyer", he's done a LOT less than people make out.  A couple of regrettable incidents that I'm sure he wished he hadn't been involved in, and then being a long term injury sufferer.  Oh and he got well paid, big deal, he's a professional footballer

 

Ask yourself this though - if he HADN'T been injured as often as he has, if we'd got 40 games a season out of him over all these years, would people still despise him like they do for an incident with the captain's armband, and for having a piss in the street?  I bet they f****** wouldn't, which just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is.  In the main he's despised for having been injured.  The other incidents are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

So would you also say that Owen should have left as soon as he recovered from his injury or were you one of the people who thought he should show us some loyalty, because by your account Dyer has never been fully fit, so surely he should show us some loyalty too?

[jimmymag]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a shit (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the fuck are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful bastard?"  He can't fucking win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Now you've gone to the other extreme totally absolving Dire from any wrong doing and portraying him as the victim. Total Bollocks!!!

 

The final final straw for me was the way Dire played for the rest of the season following the AZ Alkmaar defeat. He couldn't be arsed to pick his feet up and virtually said that would be the case when he was interviewed following the defeat in Holland.

 

He's a fucking waster who has had far too many chances here. If West Ham have offered £5million as reported, I'd be more than happy to take that and kick him out of the door.

[Mowen]

Booing the little skank during the match is one thing, but the egging was (whilst funny on one very small level) obviously wrong.

 

Look egverybody, if NM thinks it's going too far to egg Dyer's house then it's clearly too fucking far!

[Parky]

Parky, if you're going to keep interjecting with one-liners, at least try to make them funny.

 

They weren't one liners they were the dry residue of my utter boredom with this thread. Eggs? I ask you?!

[Guest Gemmill]

Parky, if you're going to keep interjecting with one-liners, at least try to make them funny.

 

They weren't one liners

 

They were.  And they weren't funny.

[Guest Gemmill]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

 

For the money spent on medical fees?  I was playing the part of the idiots who, having wanted the bloke to leave the club for years, are now slating him for finally succumbing to the pressure and wanting to go himself.

 

As for "Saint Dyer", he's done a LOT less than people make out.  A couple of regrettable incidents that I'm sure he wished he hadn't been involved in, and then being a long term injury sufferer.  Oh and he got well paid, big deal, he's a professional footballer

 

Ask yourself this though - if he HADN'T been injured as often as he has, if we'd got 40 games a season out of him over all these years, would people still despise him like they do for an incident with the captain's armband, and for having a piss in the street?  I bet they f****** wouldn't, which just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is.  In the main he's despised for having been injured.  The other incidents are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

So would you also say that Owen should have left as soon as he recovered from his injury or were you one of the people who thought he should show us some loyalty, because by your account Dyer has never been fully fit, so surely he should show us some loyalty too?

 

Nope, I said at the time that Owen was perfectly entitled to leave if he wanted to.  In fact, in the immediate aftermath of last season I said that if I was him I'd be telling my agent that his holidays were cancelled as he was going to be working his arse off finding me a way out of the shambles that is NUFC.

 

Which slightly messes up your point.

[Guest Gemmill]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a shit (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the fuck are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful bastard?"  He can't fucking win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Now you've gone to the other extreme totally absolving Dire from any wrong doing and portraying him as the victim. Total Bollocks!!!

 

The final final straw for me was the way Dire played for the rest of the season following the AZ Alkmaar defeat. He couldn't be arsed to pick his feet up and virtually said that would be the case when he was interviewed following the defeat in Holland.

 

He's a fucking waster who has had far too many chances here. If West Ham have offered £5million as reported, I'd be more than happy to take that and kick him out of the door.

 

I'm not absolving him of anything.  I think he's been guilty of acting a prick on occasion, but that he's done nothing to garner the level of hatred (and it is HATRED) that some people feel for him.  I'm also pointing out that a lot of this hatred MUST stem from the fact that he's injured, as the individual incidents that people keep harping back to, whilst regrettable and indicative of the fact that he's probably not too nice a lad, are not THAT big a deal in the grand scheme of things.

[beardsleymagic]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

 

For the money spent on medical fees?  I was playing the part of the idiots who, having wanted the bloke to leave the club for years, are now slating him for finally succumbing to the pressure and wanting to go himself.

 

As for "Saint Dyer", he's done a LOT less than people make out.  A couple of regrettable incidents that I'm sure he wished he hadn't been involved in, and then being a long term injury sufferer.  Oh and he got well paid, big deal, he's a professional footballer

 

Ask yourself this though - if he HADN'T been injured as often as he has, if we'd got 40 games a season out of him over all these years, would people still despise him like they do for an incident with the captain's armband, and for having a piss in the street?  I bet they f****** wouldn't, which just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is.  In the main he's despised for having been injured.  The other incidents are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

So would you also say that Owen should have left as soon as he recovered from his injury or were you one of the people who thought he should show us some loyalty, because by your account Dyer has never been fully fit, so surely he should show us some loyalty too?

 

Nope, I said at the time that Owen was perfectly entitled to leave if he wanted to.  In fact, in the immediate aftermath of last season I said that if I was him I'd be telling my agent that his holidays were cancelled as he was going to be working his arse off finding me a way out of the shambles that is NUFC.

 

Which slightly messes up your point.

 

Not really, fair enough you don't think loyalty should be part of a footballers character, I however think it should. I thought Owen should show us some loyalty, and I thought Dyer should as well.

 

But as soon as he's fully fit he want's out. Fair enough that's his decision, I don't personally agree with it.

[Guest Gemmill]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

 

For the money spent on medical fees?  I was playing the part of the idiots who, having wanted the bloke to leave the club for years, are now slating him for finally succumbing to the pressure and wanting to go himself.

 

As for "Saint Dyer", he's done a LOT less than people make out.  A couple of regrettable incidents that I'm sure he wished he hadn't been involved in, and then being a long term injury sufferer.  Oh and he got well paid, big deal, he's a professional footballer

 

Ask yourself this though - if he HADN'T been injured as often as he has, if we'd got 40 games a season out of him over all these years, would people still despise him like they do for an incident with the captain's armband, and for having a piss in the street?  I bet they f****** wouldn't, which just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is.  In the main he's despised for having been injured.  The other incidents are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

So would you also say that Owen should have left as soon as he recovered from his injury or were you one of the people who thought he should show us some loyalty, because by your account Dyer has never been fully fit, so surely he should show us some loyalty too?

 

Nope, I said at the time that Owen was perfectly entitled to leave if he wanted to.  In fact, in the immediate aftermath of last season I said that if I was him I'd be telling my agent that his holidays were cancelled as he was going to be working his arse off finding me a way out of the shambles that is NUFC.

 

Which slightly messes up your point.

 

Not really, fair enough you don't think loyalty should be part of a footballers character, I however think it should. I thought Owen should show us some loyalty, and I thought Dyer should as well.

 

But as soon as he's fully fit he want's out. Fair enough that's his decision, I don't personally agree with it.

 

Do you not think he knows that most of the fans want "the dirty skank/fucking wanker/little arsehole/etc etc" out though?  Do you think that might have some bearing on his decision?

 

He gets booed by his own fans, and you then expect him to show them loyalty?  How much loyalty would you feel like showing under those circumstances?

 

I'm not painting him as the victim in all this btw, but it's preposterous to suggest that he should show loyalty to a crowd that (in some cases, literally) is baying for his blood.

[Parky]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a shit (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the fuck are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful bastard?"  He can't fucking win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Now you've gone to the other extreme totally absolving Dire from any wrong doing and portraying him as the victim. Total Bollocks!!!

 

The final final straw for me was the way Dire played for the rest of the season following the AZ Alkmaar defeat. He couldn't be arsed to pick his feet up and virtually said that would be the case when he was interviewed following the defeat in Holland.

 

He's a fucking waster who has had far too many chances here. If West Ham have offered £5million as reported, I'd be more than happy to take that and kick him out of the door.

 

I'm not absolving him of anything.  I think he's been guilty of acting a prick on occasion, but that he's done nothing to garner the level of hatred (and it is HATRED) that some people feel for him.  I'm also pointing out that a lot of this hatred MUST stem from the fact that he's injured, as the individual incidents that people keep harping back to, whilst regrettable and indicative of the fact that he's probably not too nice a lad, are not THAT big a deal in the grand scheme of things.

 

What a bit of booing and some eggs?

 

 

 

Lucky he wasn't playing for Napoli or Fluminese eh.

[Guest Gemmill]

Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a shit (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the fuck are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful bastard?"  He can't fucking win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Now you've gone to the other extreme totally absolving Dire from any wrong doing and portraying him as the victim. Total Bollocks!!!

 

The final final straw for me was the way Dire played for the rest of the season following the AZ Alkmaar defeat. He couldn't be arsed to pick his feet up and virtually said that would be the case when he was interviewed following the defeat in Holland.

 

He's a fucking waster who has had far too many chances here. If West Ham have offered £5million as reported, I'd be more than happy to take that and kick him out of the door.

 

I'm not absolving him of anything.  I think he's been guilty of acting a prick on occasion, but that he's done nothing to garner the level of hatred (and it is HATRED) that some people feel for him.  I'm also pointing out that a lot of this hatred MUST stem from the fact that he's injured, as the individual incidents that people keep harping back to, whilst regrettable and indicative of the fact that he's probably not too nice a lad, are not THAT big a deal in the grand scheme of things.

 

What a bit of booing and some eggs?

 

Lucky he wasn't playing for Napoli or Fluminese eh.

 

Nah, you'd know what I'm talking about if you went to the match tbh. [/fighting cheap shot with cheap shot]

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Clearly TT would have no problem with people attacking his car as he leaves his place of work, and then having eggs flung at his house when he gets home.

 

Its a occupational hazard. Being a footballer means much more than kicking a ball about, something Dyer in ten years here hasn't learned, well maybe he did, just took him years to figure it out.

 

I'm sure for the millions he's earned for nothing i'd take a few eggs  But it wouldn't happen to me, as fans would never have a problem with me, i'd respect the club paying my £80kpw far too much to fuk them about.

 

End of the day, his past has caught up with him SLIGHTLY, and if that's all that ever happens to him he's got off lightly. I'm not condoning any of it, but can understand why someone would want to abuse him before he left.

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree, while not condoning what happened and agreeing with Mort in a way that this is not the right type of image we want when trying to lure players here, we also have to take a step back and be a bit sensible about this.

 

Ok his house got pelted with some eggs - it shouldn't have happened, but no one was killed, maimed, decapitated, caught the plague ect.

 

Some people have very short memories when it comes to Dyer, not so long ago he was dragging our clubs name through the dirt with his handbags crap with Bowyer. Everyone wanted to lynch Bowyer, but Dyer seems to have been conveniently forgiven.

 

What about his part in Bobby Robsons departure, yes the details are open to debate but he definitely didn't help matters.

 

Plus there's all his off field shanahans, like getting his cock out, burning money in front of fans' faces, home movie debut ect.

 

Like it has been said before, if this is SO distressing for poor old Dyer, why hasn't he handed in a TRANSFER REQUEST? Why? because it's got fuk all to do about his family, it's all about him and his agent getting one last big payday.

 

To think of all the money that the club's spent on sending him all around the world getting the best doctors to try and sort out his career (not to mention his 60k-80k a WEEK wages). Think of all the games (about 90%) he's played when he looks like he doesn't give a s*** (apart form sunday when he was in the shop window, funny that isn't it?), and what does he do when it at last looks like he might be clear of his injuries? He want's out.  

 

And to think of all the people who were calling for Owen to be sold and criticising him for the amount of games he's played for us. At least when he's played he's done the business for us. Ramage get's slated everytime he plays, fair enough he's not good enough but at least he's honest and tries. Dyer HAS the talent, but just uses it when he feels like it and that is worse than any of the others.

 

I do think that out squad is dangerously thin and I thought that we should keep dyer to make up the numbers, but the more I think about it I would rather have Harper playing than him (ok, slight eggageration). Seriously though this parasite has bled us dry for 8 years and I think now, enough is enough.  Bye, bye.

 

Dyer is about as responsible for the incident with Bowyer as he is for having some cretins chuck eggs at his house tbh.  What the f*** are "off field shanahans" btw?

 

People have wanted him out of the club FOR YEARS.  Now he finally acquiesces and admits he wants to leave and we get "Eh?  But what about all the money we've spend on medical fees, you ungrateful b******?"  He can't f****** win.

 

As for Dyer's performances, I think it's pretty clear that for the vast majority of his time here he's been playing injured.  Even when he was brought back into the team, he was never fully fit.  It's only last season that we finally had him at a decent level of fitness for a prolonged period, but by then the damage was done and people have made their mind up to despise him.  And he's been nowhere near as bad as people try to make out when he has played.  Not even close.

 

I think it's a shame he's leaving because he can be a good player for us, but I totally understand him wanting to go.  Especially in light of recent incidents and the fact that he must know that trying to win the fans back over is a pointless exercise.

 

Aye, sorry, it's all the fans' fault.

 

Saint Dyer's so hard done to.

 

Ungrateful? For what?

 

For the money spent on medical fees?  I was playing the part of the idiots who, having wanted the bloke to leave the club for years, are now slating him for finally succumbing to the pressure and wanting to go himself.

 

As for "Saint Dyer", he's done a LOT less than people make out.  A couple of regrettable incidents that I'm sure he wished he hadn't been involved in, and then being a long term injury sufferer.  Oh and he got well paid, big deal, he's a professional footballer

 

Ask yourself this though - if he HADN'T been injured as often as he has, if we'd got 40 games a season out of him over all these years, would people still despise him like they do for an incident with the captain's armband, and for having a piss in the street?  I bet they f****** wouldn't, which just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is.  In the main he's despised for having been injured.  The other incidents are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

So would you also say that Owen should have left as soon as he recovered from his injury or were you one of the people who thought he should show us some loyalty, because by your account Dyer has never been fully fit, so surely he should show us some loyalty too?

 

Nope, I said at the time that Owen was perfectly entitled to leave if he wanted to.  In fact, in the immediate aftermath of last season I said that if I was him I'd be telling my agent that his holidays were cancelled as he was going to be working his arse off finding me a way out of the shambles that is NUFC.

 

Which slightly messes up your point.

 

Not really, fair enough you don't think loyalty should be part of a footballers character, I however think it should. I thought Owen should show us some loyalty, and I thought Dyer should as well.

 

But as soon as he's fully fit he want's out. Fair enough that's his decision, I don't personally agree with it.

 

Do you not think he knows that most of the fans want "the dirty skank/f****** w******/little arsehole/etc etc" out though?  Do you think that might have some bearing on his decision?

 

He gets booed by his own fans, and you then expect him to show them loyalty?  How much loyalty would you feel like showing under those circumstances?

 

I'm not painting him as the victim in all this btw, but it's preposterous to suggest that he should show loyalty to a crowd that (in some cases, literally) is baying for his blood.

 

Yeh but mate, what came first? Dyers inept displays? or the crowd getting on his back?

 

I've never know the crowd to boo a player unless they feel he's not giving everything he can. And you can't say for one minute that Dyer has giving 100% in all the games he played for us can you?