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Sun's annoying. Awful ground by the way, but at least the away end has a roof now. Been soaked too many times there for my liking.

Wow, you're difficult. I made the point that we have no idea why he turned Spurs down, but you claimed that because Parker and Emre turned them down, he'd come here.

No idea how good this link is, but it claims he rejected Spurs because he wants a move to Athletico Madrid: http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=13911

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it. bitter ? Why not prove I'm wrong then, or show you know more about the club than me ? Prove you wrong that Taylor is or isn't better than Senderos? Isn't that a matter of opinion? It's your pathetic use of that smiley which I'm referring to. Makes you look like a 12 year old. well, its a smiley, because I think your silly comments - as above "not really worth it" make you sound like a little girl You're bitter alright, f**k knows what at, but such comments do you no favours I feel that some new posters need warning about you So how exactly would you like me to prove your "opinion" wrong, as you seem to think it's a matter of fact? "Warning" oh dear. Who are you, The fairy godmother ? I meant prove you know more about the club than me, as you chose to butt in and respond to me when you are hardly on here and I never mentioned or even thought of you. Because you don't. Fucking hell man, is that what's important to you? Do you just want us all to say that you know more about the club than anyone else? Laughable I'm afraid. Yep, you know more about the club than I do, and you've been to far more games. Well done. Unfortunately for you, that does not automatically make your opinion right about our players, which you've proved by claiming that Taylor is a top class defender.

which tiago? juve one? that one is s***... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from s*** though. Oh here we go. Didn't Emre and Parker turn down spurs for us? What's with the rolled eyes like? I assumed he turned Spurs down because he wanted to stay at Juve. Are you saying it was because he had the chance of signing for us in summer? what you are saying?...... he has no future at juve.... definitely that for sure No, I'm saying he does not want to come back to this country. He actually wants to go to Spain, and that's where he's going.

Errr.. Resale value of Michael Owen in 2012: 1M Resale value of talented player deemed worth 12M in 2008 after 4 more years of development in 2012: ? I´m off the opinion that there are players out there that would offer us more than Owen does at the moment and would make more sense economically as well. They represent slight gambles, and you don´t know whether they would come here unless you tried, but it´s not a given in my opinion that keeping an ageing and degressing player on over the top wages makes financial sense.. That's fair enough but I don't really care about resale values; if they're doing the business why would we want to sell them? It's like saying 'let's replace Beye now because in three years time we won't be able to sell him for much' - who cares? BTW £12m was a conservative estimate. Who would we get for that, Crouch? Dave, that is conservative to try and keep the discussion going, i think both you and i know that Owens replacement would cost 20mil+, so i am definately in the KEEP camp. Jesus, I'm all for a bit reasoning and you know, disagreements don't need to be settled and all, but 20m?? Are you serious? Just think of what Owen actually offers us and see if whether that's worth 20m; it blatantly doesn't. If the economics doesn't really matter then I think there are loads of strikers out there who can replace Owen on the field (i.e. footballing ability-wise). The problem being is he would need to be a proven Premiership striker, as even paying over the odds for one of the best strikers in Europe (as Chelsea did) doesn't always work. Who in the premiership could we sign who would be better than Owen in your opinion?

which tiago? juve one? that one is s***... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from s*** though. Oh here we go. Didn't Emre and Parker turn down spurs for us? What's with the rolled eyes like? I assumed he turned Spurs down because he wanted to stay at Juve. Are you saying it was because he had the chance of signing for us in summer?

Derby really have been fantastic haven't they. Wonder if Allardyce will forget that we're the only team to lose to them next time he claims he was the right man for the job?

which tiago? juve one? that one is shit... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from shit though. Turned them down over wages didn't he? Not sure. Has Martin Jol posted in the intimate secrets of the rejection yet?

which tiago? juve one? that one is shit... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from shit though.

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it. bitter ? Why not prove I'm wrong then, or show you know more about the club than me ? Prove you wrong that Taylor is or isn't better than Senderos? Isn't that a matter of opinion? It's your pathetic use of that smiley which I'm referring to. Makes you look like a 12 year old. well, its a smiley, because I think your silly comments - as above "not really worth it" make you sound like a little girl You're bitter alright, f**k knows what at, but such comments do you no favours I feel that some new posters need warning about you So how exactly would you like me to prove your "opinion" wrong, as you seem to think it's a matter of fact?

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it. bitter ? Why not prove I'm wrong then, or show you know more about the club than me ? Prove you wrong that Taylor is or isn't better than Senderos? Isn't that a matter of opinion? It's your pathetic use of that smiley which I'm referring to. Makes you look like a 12 year old.

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it.

He's not a team player. He's always running down blind alleys and giving the ball away in the process. Dyer was better at what N'Zogbia thinks he's best at. Agree with that completely.

You'll not have to wait that long if we end the season where we are now because it will be a better position in the league than the season before. I just wonder how that one would be put down as a negative? What position did we finish in Fred's first season as sole chairman?

Good shout, but that would mean taking Gerrard off the list, which is against the law.

Wouldnt want to sign him tbh. Why not?

You still not going to answer then?

There's something that doesn't quite add up here...... I mean Ferdinand should be on the list but there is obviously one man who deserves to win I find it amusing how we can be consistently spanked by Gerrard every time we play Liverpool, yet our fans still severely underrate him. Not at all. I think that on his day he's the best in the world at what he does. What really pisses me off (and the biggest example came the other night, when even he admitted he had a poor game, the papers gave him man of the match) is that even when he's not on form, the media all wank over him. He's been awful for England for the best part of two years, yet there's not one negative comment about him.

You keep saying that often enough but I still don't think anyone believes you. Shola's probably the only on who said it. oh I don't think so Alex. I remember it clearly, and I suspect that you do too. No I don't. The best thing 'the vast majority' has ever said about Shola is that he looked alright when we got to 7th under Roeder. By all means dig up the dozens of quotes you must remember saying he was 'the new Shearer' though. I suspect you'll say you can't be bothered I went through and edited every single post to make sure that you won't be able to find those quotes. EVERYONE apart from Leazes said that Ameobi was the world's greatest ever player though. *insert pathetic hilarious laughing smiley here* and Lampard is the bestest midfield player the world has ever seen. Don't understand your grudge gol, but what the hell eh I'm sure Alex can make his own case if he's that bothered. Someone should have told you by now to stick to the topic in hand, which is Taylor. My opinion is that people overvalue or undervalue homegrown lads. Ameobi got loads of underserved support, and Taylor is getting loads of undeserved grief. Ameobi has got more stick on Newcastle forums than any other Newcastle player. I'm amazed that you claim otherwise. Taylor is an average defender, and it's going to take one hell of a coach to change that. As you've been asked many times, what attributes does Taylor possess which make you think he's going to be a future England captain? Oh, and Lampard is one of the best midfielders in the world

Not really, but seems to be constantly carrying an injury. Fallen out with the manager already too

Works that way on Football Manager. Just have to offer enough money.

Who were both s***. Didn't think Veloso was tbh. Moved the ball around well. Not a great physical presence in front of the back 4 though. Bit like Carrick imo. Well Carrick's dead cert for coming here, so they need to replace him.

He's "Mr England". You can't leave him out of the list. In the same way that he can be England's worst player for the last 2 years and still gets picked.

You keep saying that often enough but I still don't think anyone believes you. Shola's probably the only on who said it. oh I don't think so Alex. I remember it clearly, and I suspect that you do too. No I don't. The best thing 'the vast majority' has ever said about Shola is that he looked alright when we got to 7th under Roeder. By all means dig up the dozens of quotes you must remember saying he was 'the new Shearer' though. I suspect you'll say you can't be bothered I went through and edited every single post to make sure that you won't be able to find those quotes. EVERYONE apart from Leazes said that Ameobi was the world's greatest ever player though. *insert pathetic hilarious laughing smiley here*