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What does JK think of this? Is Barton going to get re-instated when he comes back?

How did it even itself out? Surely Chelsea would have won at least 2-1 if he got both decisions right?

Because it was

Clear penalty that one.

Are you trying to confuse me or something? ... I think my initial post made enough sense. It's not a case of Barton's wasn't a red for same reasons Fletcher's wasn't. The incidents are different. Would you say Barton's challenge was a foul even? Because if you're comparing the two that's what it comes down to. The red cards don't really matter seeing as for Fletcher's any kind of foul=red and we're arguing whether it was a foul at all. Eh? You said the two were different because Fletcher's started around the side, rather than the back? Or have I read that wrong? Both were fouls imo.

Robert didn't score from that range only last night though

Kinda makes penalties pretty pointless though Eh? Well 0-0 would have taken it to penalties. I didn't ever see Barcelona playing for pens though. Just saying they needed to score to win before kick off, and they still do. One goal puts them through just as it did before Essien scored. I fancied a 0-0 to be honest.

Kinda makes penalties pretty pointless though Eh? Well 0-0 would have taken it to penalties.

I wasn't stating absolute rules that let you off no matter what but reasons that made Fletcher's not a red. I don't agree, Barton lunged in a speed. Got a small piece of the ball with his heel but basically went over the top of it into whats his name. What was the point you were making about going through the man from behind to get to the ball though?

Kinda makes penalties pretty pointless though

BOOM!

Changed my vote to a 10

It was Fabregas.

Preventing a clear goalscoring opportunity? Same difference

Last man though. Shit rule too.

Wum? Seriously of course it wasn't a foul. Was actually a very good piece of defending. Joey Barton touched the ball when he tackled Alonso - was that a great bit of defending? Fletcher's wasn't from behind. It was from the side first of all. He didn't go through the player to get the ball and he got the ball first. Whether there's tangling within the same motion is irrelevant. Please don't compare it to Barton's that's stupid. If anything compare it to Beye's red against Man City because it's almost the exact same incident. And of course Beye's red was overruled and ref said he made a mistake. You need to watch Barton's again then. That wasn't from behind either, it started from the side. He also won the ball before going through the player. Absolutely nothing different about the two challenges other than Barton went in at speed, whereas both Fletcher and Cesc were running at the same speed.

Ha!

We should change the manager every week. That way one of them is surely going to get it right.

Ashley wanted to sack him last summer, so I suppose he got his wish. At least we've got plenty of quality midfielders to come in.....

he didn't "win" the ball at all. he touched it before finding his INTENDED TARGET the player which is why he got sent off. And you know that how? I thought it was a great challenge fwiw.

Are people suggesting we try and hold out against them? When have we ever managed that? Need to attack, lose 8-4 or something.

The thought of him in the Prem on the other hand is quite tasty. Championship though, he'll get raped anally. I can name plenty of championship players who "aren't built for it". One of them scores nearly every week!

A central midfielder so bad I'm not sure if I'd play him ahead of Nolan or Butt. Surely no Premiership club will be in for him, it's off to the likes of Queen Of The South for you, laddie... The big boss at work is a huge Celtic fan and he rates Ferguson for some reason. Says he wouldn't mind him at Celtic. Seems to have a decent reputation up there at least. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Never really understood that phrase. In the land of the blind, surely the one-eyed man is blind too?

They should try that in rugby if that's all it takes to push someone over

Back to the subject... It's stupid that they can "wait to see what happens" before deciding when Southampton should lose the points. They should lose them next season, regardless. I thought that once it got to certain time in the season, that's what happened anyway?