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Barton playing defensive midfield? Have you ever seen him play mate? He's the attacking force we're missing in midfield at the moment. It's almost like trying to play Gerrard or Lampard in that role.

Did someone just say Emre is one of our most creative players? We're doooooooooomed

Not Lampard ffs absolutely s*** player. Yet he scores about 20 goals a season, Pretty good for a s*** player. Id say about 2 of them are his own, the other 18 are delfections that smack of 4 defenders arses before they hit the back of the net. A truely over rated player. From the complete lack of football knowledge in your post, I assume you're a girl?

Took a good one in the Champions League semi-final. Martins is off then.

From the most defensive looking midfield to the most attacking. Who out of Emre and Barton do you expect to hold? I'd put Barton and Faye together tbh

24 points out of a possible 60 for Allardyce in 2007. Can't be arsed to compare it to other managers, but for those people saying he's trying to emulate Bolton, I hope he's trying to emulate them from previous years. As some have mentioned, it's far far too early to start questioning whether or not he's the right man for the job, but I think most people could see that the midfield he put out last night was never going to create chances. I can't work out why he couldn't see it.

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What difference did RvN's goal make? It actually stood unlike Albania's goal? You still weren't winning your bet though... I still don't see how an own goal can get disallowed tbh. What was it disallowed for? A push? A player in an offside position?

Well, he does think Owen is shite, so I think comes into it a bit...

Yep, agree. Based on form, Barry (along with Owen and Heskey) should be the first names on the teamsheet.

5 of the 11 don't play in London. None of the 3 subs do. Where does "London England" come from? Wrong manager, but I'll support England regardless of who the manager is.

He wears number ten. Is it only me who celebrates more when England score if it's Owen, purely because he plays for us? Okay, maybe it's just me. Don't celebrate at all unless its a Newcastle player. Really couldn't care whether England win or lose. Might be different if the team was picked on form rather than favourites League form or England form? Both sometimes, but usually England form. Any bets on Lampard coming straight back in for Barry? By that logic, form over the last 3 games, Lampard and Barry should start. Over the last 3 games, Lampard hasnt played in two of them. And bar his goal against Germany he really didnt play that well. He wears number ten. Is it only me who celebrates more when England score if it's Owen, purely because he plays for us? Okay, maybe it's just me. Don't celebrate at all unless its a Newcastle player. Really couldn't care whether England win or lose. Might be different if the team was picked on form rather than favourites League form or England form? Both sometimes, but usually England form. Any bets on Lampard coming straight back in for Barry? By that logic, form over the last 3 games, Lampard and Barry should start. Over the last 3 games, Lampard hasnt played in two of them. And bar his goal against Germany he really didnt play that well. Along with Cole and Richards, he was Englands best player against Germany. Gerrard has been shite in the last 2 games. You can't make the rule of basing it on form, and then changing it purely as you don't like the player in question.

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He wears number ten. Is it only me who celebrates more when England score if it's Owen, purely because he plays for us? Okay, maybe it's just me. Don't celebrate at all unless its a Newcastle player. Really couldn't care whether England win or lose. Might be different if the team was picked on form rather than favourites League form or England form? Both sometimes, but usually England form. Any bets on Lampard coming straight back in for Barry? By that logic, form over the last 3 games, Lampard and Barry should start.

He wears number ten. Is it only me who celebrates more when England score if it's Owen, purely because he plays for us? Okay, maybe it's just me. Don't celebrate at all unless its a Newcastle player. Really couldn't care whether England win or lose. Might be different if the team was picked on form rather than favourites League form or England form?

What's that got to do with anything? He's our player now, why shouldn't we play to his strengths? Play to his strengths yes, you should always do that with your strikers, but don't go buying players to get the best out of him when we don't know whether he'll be staying or going whenever the window opens up. It just doesn't sound smart to me. Who do we know is staying? Do tell. We don't know, the club does though with most players - Owen isn't one of those because of his clause. Neither do i, that's why i said we should play to his strengths. All i said was that we shouldn't go buying players to get the best out of him when he might be off when the window opens. OK, well I disagree. I believe that we don't have the partner for him at the club yet.

He wears number ten. Is it only me who celebrates more when England score if it's Owen, purely because he plays for us? Okay, maybe it's just me. Nope, me too. Him or Lampard

Ferdinand, Cole, Cole, SWP and Gerrard have all been pretty average. Not really sure how England are 2-0 up.

What's that got to do with anything? He's our player now, why shouldn't we play to his strengths? Play to his strengths yes, you should always do that with your strikers, but don't go buying players to get the best out of him when we don't know whether he'll be staying or going whenever the window opens up. It just doesn't sound smart to me. So we pick a team which doesn't play to his strengths, and he scores less goals? Don't see how that gains us anything? If Owen goes, we change how the team plays. Easy.

Is that Scotland nearly there?

why was he taken off ? He wasn't. He was brought on.

Time he was dropped tbh

He came on at half time.