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Well we won't agree. I was gutted when it was announced Parker was captain because I knew what that implied. He's not good enough to be a fixture in the team. In my opinion.

it would only be a solution if they are replaced,simply forcing them out wouldn't necessarily solve anything and could make things worse. HTL's posts have become more infrequent of late due to his lack of fingers because he is infact a leper,you insensitive brat!

I know. It was a tongue in cheek reply to Vicky The Boiler.

Showing my ignorance once again? Alan Shearer was one of the cataylst thats for sure 80 goals over Sir Bobby's 3ed 4th 5th makes him one of the catalyst for our high times. if you don't agree who do you suggest was/where the cataylst for 3ed? Souness and his wonderful improved dressing room? I suspect you don't know what catalyst means. I'm not in any mood to debate anything with you mate, your first post to me in this thread should tell you why. You were wrong in that first post, although I doubt you have what it takes to admit it, and you're wrong about this catalyst thing too. The catalyst for the surge from mediocrity to 4th, 3rd and 5th were the signings made by Robson of Bellamy and Robert. Not Shearer. The catalyst for our move from decades of obscurity was SJH and KK. That's my last post to you, mate. Say whatever you like, talk about hindsight and call me a liar if you want. I've better things to do.

Happy days. No better place to be when its like that exactly what's ruined this club, some have this daft perception that we once ruled the world of football for a decade like Liverpool :roll: Tut tut. You shouldn't be having a dig like that at the Fred out crowd you know.

Whether or not Butt is better than Parker isn't the issue. Not that Parker is as good as some believe, but think Gerrard and Lampard for England. Two supposedly top players who don't complement each other at all and you'll be on the right lines.

MR HINDSIGHT So let me get this straight after finishing 3ed you stood up and said "Shearer now should retire" and "Sir Bobby should go"... Unbelievble!!! always makes me laugh when people say such rubbish Errr sorry but I said we should replace Shearer and that Robson should go, yes. As grassroots MIGHT confirm if he can be arsed. I have no doubt he'll remember. Good of you to make a stupid personal judgement based on fúck all. So right after finishing 3ed you stood up and said the two very catylst of getting us 3ed should go? Laughable Look mate, I answered your first post just to state the fact that I posted about that at the time, not in hindsight as you ignorantly claim. When it comes down to it I don't really give a shite whether you believe me or not. However, I should add that even the likes of John, who I argue with most of the time, was saying much the same at that time, at least about Robson anyway. Others were also saying we needed a change of approach to move forward, I wasn't alone in that idea. Perhaps you were learning to read at that time, so you missed it? By the way, Shearer wasn't a 'cataylst' for us finishing 3rd. Showing your ignorance again there, like.

MR HINDSIGHT So let me get this straight after finishing 3ed you stood up and said "Shearer now should retire" and "Sir Bobby should go"... Unbelievble!!! always makes me laugh when people say such rubbish Errr sorry but I said we should replace Shearer and that Robson should go, yes. As grassroots MIGHT confirm if he can be arsed. I have no doubt he'll remember. Good of you to make a stupid personal judgement based on fúck all. Liar! Cant' remember anything about Shearer but I remember you and a few others saying SBR should be moved upstairs after we finished 3rd. Really? So you've forgotten all about the string of posts about changing our style of play, something that could only be done without a reliance on Shearer. I'm surprised, but ok if you can't.

Our manager may need changing as he's certainly not getting us results. Our forwards are playing very poorly and struggling to find the net and defensively Car and Bramble in particular are shite, but our midfield........... is actually pretty good, midfield is not an area that needs strengthening and both Parker and Emre are very good quality players, we have the right personel in midfield its up to Roeder to get the best out of them. Why you've decided to pick on Parker and Emre seems a bit odd, entitled to your opinion and all that, but i really struggle to understand why you think its Emre 's and Parkers fault when they are clearly two of our better performers. Are you trying to divert blame away from someone else? Who would you play instead? I may be wrong mate, but the implication of your post is that I'm suddenly having a go at Parker and Emre. If that's what you're saying I can tell that isn't the case. I've been on about Parker being over-rated since he was signed. I've also been on about the partnership with Emre being poor since the early days of that partnership. I know not many appear to agree, but I don't know why anyone is surprised at the possibility given they were signed by the worst Newcastle manager in living memory. In their place, and subject to being fit, I'd use Dyer and Butt in the centre, and I say that while still believing that CM is not the best position for Dyer, where he leaves large gaps due to a lack of discipline. I'd still do it though. After that I'd go with Butt and Emre. After that I'd go with Butt and Zog. Cheers anyway. We don't have to agree. I don't think we will agree on this one. I know you said subject to being fit but Dyer never is so that kinda rules him out. However even when he was fit Dyer was very poor in the center as he hardly ever played to his strengths i.e. using his pace running into space, at players, hiting teams on the break, he and jenas used to play it sideways backwards and it used to annoy the hell out of me. Dyer is effective up front because of his pace but his best position imo is the one he's famous for not liking i.e. the Right Wing because his finishing is not so good. Emre is still highly regarded in Italy still and has been very stronly linked with Bayern lately as well as being Turkey's best player and named in Pele' s 100 greatest players alive. He's one of our very good players. Parker though is easily our best player at the moment. Our best asset on the pitch. What do you find wrong with Parker? I know you haven't mentioned him but completely out of interest, did you not rate Shearer in his last few years here? Parker does absolutely nothing creative in my view. Shearer should have gone the season before last. Newcastle should have moved him on after we finished 3rd. That's not to say he was shite, just that he was well past his best. Parker is similar to the Makelle's (arguably better going forward) and not as good but in the same mould as Roy Keane. Every decent team needs a real workhorse in the middle of the pitch Parker is a very good one imo as like Makelle and Keane he is not flamboyantly creative but just does the simple things very very well. He was one of our only bright lights last year and indeed this year too just as Shearer and Given frequently were in years gone by. I don't agree that Parker is very good at anything, he's average at defending/covering and positively shite at creating anything. Last season the team play improved enormously whenever he wasn't playing.

always makes me laugh when people say such rubbish

MR HINDSIGHT So let me get this straight after finishing 3ed you stood up and said "Shearer now should retire" and "Sir Bobby should go"... Unbelievble!!! always makes me laugh when people say such rubbish Errr sorry but I said we should replace Shearer and that Robson should go, yes. As grassroots MIGHT confirm if he can be arsed. I have no doubt he'll remember. Good of you to make a stupid personal judgement based on fúck all.

Not bothered, that was the moment to change the approach to take the next step forward. Having finished 3rd we could have done that from a position of strength. I think later events show the view to be valid, even if you don't agree.

No. I remember the Charlton game when DUff went clean through and went down. Replays showed that he apparently wasn't fouled. Everyone at the game was 110% certain that it was a red card for the defender. You see replays on tele and get to look at things from different angles. Being at the game allows you to see one incident from sometimes an obscure angle and obviously without replays. Although however you do get to follow a players every movement and see lots of other little things. I don't think the thread is about isolated incidents, it's more to do with general observations over a period of time that form the basis of an opinion about a player, for example.

So the question, "does going to the match give your opinion more weight than those who don't" really means "what's the percent of the board membership who go to the match" And you reckon threads turn to shite when I post in them..... :roll: bluebiggrin.gif bluebiggrin.gif just pointing out how many noses might be put out of joint if the thread went a certain way see it was a point RELATED to the subject of the post, something you never quite grasp But but but....so are all of my posts. I'm gutted that you don't have the capacity to understand them.

So the question, "does going to the match give your opinion more weight than those who don't" really means "what percentage of the board membership go to the match" And you reckon threads turn to shite when I post in them..... :roll: bluebiggrin.gif bluebiggrin.gif

Our manager may need changing as he's certainly not getting us results. Our forwards are playing very poorly and struggling to find the net and defensively Car and Bramble in particular are shite, but our midfield........... is actually pretty good, midfield is not an area that needs strengthening and both Parker and Emre are very good quality players, we have the right personel in midfield its up to Roeder to get the best out of them. Why you've decided to pick on Parker and Emre seems a bit odd, entitled to your opinion and all that, but i really struggle to understand why you think its Emre 's and Parkers fault when they are clearly two of our better performers. Are you trying to divert blame away from someone else? Who would you play instead? I may be wrong mate, but the implication of your post is that I'm suddenly having a go at Parker and Emre. If that's what you're saying I can tell that isn't the case. I've been on about Parker being over-rated since he was signed. I've also been on about the partnership with Emre being poor since the early days of that partnership. I know not many appear to agree, but I don't know why anyone is surprised at the possibility given they were signed by the worst Newcastle manager in living memory. In their place, and subject to being fit, I'd use Dyer and Butt in the centre, and I say that while still believing that CM is not the best position for Dyer, where he leaves large gaps due to a lack of discipline. I'd still do it though. After that I'd go with Butt and Emre. After that I'd go with Butt and Zog. Cheers anyway. We don't have to agree. I don't think we will agree on this one. I know you said subject to being fit but Dyer never is so that kinda rules him out. However even when he was fit Dyer was very poor in the center as he hardly ever played to his strengths i.e. using his pace running into space, at players, hiting teams on the break, he and jenas used to play it sideways backwards and it used to annoy the hell out of me. Dyer is effective up front because of his pace but his best position imo is the one he's famous for not liking i.e. the Right Wing because his finishing is not so good. Emre is still highly regarded in Italy still and has been very stronly linked with Bayern lately as well as being Turkey's best player and named in Pele' s 100 greatest players alive. He's one of our very good players. Parker though is easily our best player at the moment. Our best asset on the pitch. What do you find wrong with Parker? I know you haven't mentioned him but completely out of interest, did you not rate Shearer in his last few years here? Parker does absolutely nothing creative in my view. Shearer should have gone the season before last. Newcastle should have moved him on after we finished 3rd. That's not to say he was shite, just that he was well past his best.

Must have been writing yours as I was writing mine. I think Butt and Dyer would be a better balance, so I'd go with that. We need some attacking threat from the centre, some pace and urgency in there, energy. Whatever you want to call it.

Our manager may need changing as he's certainly not getting us results. Our forwards are playing very poorly and struggling to find the net and defensively Car and Bramble in particular are shite, but our midfield........... is actually pretty good, midfield is not an area that needs strengthening and both Parker and Emre are very good quality players, we have the right personel in midfield its up to Roeder to get the best out of them. Why you've decided to pick on Parker and Emre seems a bit odd, entitled to your opinion and all that, but i really struggle to understand why you think its Emre 's and Parkers fault when they are clearly two of our better performers. Are you trying to divert blame away from someone else? Who would you play instead? I may be wrong mate, but the implication of your post is that I'm suddenly having a go at Parker and Emre. If that's what you're saying I can tell that isn't the case. I've been on about Parker being over-rated since he was signed. I've also been on about the partnership with Emre being poor since the early days of that partnership. I know not many appear to agree, but I don't know why anyone is surprised at the possibility given they were signed by the worst Newcastle manager in living memory. In their place, and subject to being fit, I'd use Dyer and Butt in the centre, and I say that while still believing that CM is not the best position for Dyer, where he leaves large gaps due to a lack of discipline. I'd still do it though. After that I'd go with Butt and Emre. After that I'd go with Butt and Zog. Cheers anyway. We don't have to agree.

Sadly you might be right but I think all the evidence also seems to indicate that its our best combination If you're right we're in bigger trouble than even the league table shows.

Good idea, we all need it. Seriously all these threads do now is remind me of the decent team we could put out if we didn't have roland rat in charge, ****ing depressing. So what would this decent team be then, if it wasn't for "roland rat"?

How is Parker anywhere near the England squad? Perhaps it's the 10/10 for twirls.

Apology accepted. Now go and ask your master to restore various posts that have been lost during changes to the forum, then you may find what you're looking for. Sad sad sad........ He can ask all he likes, but I have no power to restore posts on this site. bluebiggrin.gif

Apology accepted. Now go and ask your master to restore various posts that have been lost during changes to the forum, then you may find what you're looking for. Sad sad sad........

You've got a massive problem with Roeder don't you!!?!! No doubt if Roeder had gone out and brought Smith on loan, you'd be like, "is this what it's come to, helping other teams players get fit" Aye, and how things have changed. I was called all kinds of stuff when I suggested we should try to sign him from Leeds the season before he went to Manure. He's shite you see, doesn't score the obligatory 20 goals per season that for some means he isn't good enough, despite the fact he hadn't been used much as an outright striker, like. I seem to remember opinion being split 50/50 at the time. Also, at that time we weren't in the shit like are now. Indeed, people in there are discussing Van Nistelrooy... Here is your post: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,25647.msg481065.html#msg481065 I think you're having trouble reading as usual, or at least understanding plain English. Read the first sentence again and then tell me why I should give a toss about what is in that link you posted. I dispute your 'I was called all kinds of stuff' comment, unless you class one person disagreeing with you as being such. Ok. You dispute it. So ask me if I give a toss about what you may dispute. The thing is, you aren't linking to the period of time I'm on about, something you hope the less bright wouldn't notice (assuming you did understand the post, you tell me.....) and which renders your reply a typical load of cack. Sad though it is, if you keep looking, keep doing those searches, you might find something you can trip me up on one day........

Agreed. So I wonder why the comment was made in the first place, being based on nowt as it was.