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I didn't see it but I'm guessing the referee/Assistant got something wrong.

You also don't know how to spell his first name

Did anyone else just read this bit?:

Aye - bringing the Shearer plan forward by a year and a half. Shearer don't have the qualifications though yet does he? The PL wouldn't let us do it twice.

No we can't. Can we? No we wont. If West Ham win by 2 clear goals we go 17th I believe

Because we're so short of Wingers at the moment

Why do all the other managers get their full stats, and Roeder only gets this season? Saying "permanent" is an obtuse and dim-witted caveat to skew the facts. Because it's unfair to include last season's stats. He was under no pressure and there was need for Roeder to get results as he was caretaker. No one was under any pressure whatsoever. This season we're seeing the true manager, under pressure to get it right.

blueyes.gif It's all about results well you'll have to wait for results then wont you? its tough shit. We're going through a bad patch, just like @ the end of last season we went through an amaaaaayzin patch. If we're still not winning by January, then i'll be concerned. If we're still not winning by January, we'll be completely sunk. I agree. I mean we waited until January with Souness and that was nearly too late. We started the season better under Souness as well. We were lucky to salvage the season then. If we wait until January this time around, it could be too late.

Hold on T27 is right. 10 league games this season, two wins. 20% success

Yeah, that's just semantics. Not statistics. Not facts. Semantics paint a better picture than statistics though. Perhaps you would like to read the statistics in my sig... He's got you there Happy, 20% is diabolical. Especially in 4 months when we've played the likes of Fulham and Charlton at SJP He'd have me if it were true. Which it isn't. Well I haven't checked it myself. I'm just agreeing with people who throw figures at me

Yeah, that's just semantics. Not statistics. Not facts. Semantics paint a better picture than statistics though. Perhaps you would like to read the statistics in my sig... He's got you there Happy, 20% is diabolical. Especially in 4 months when we've played the likes of Fulham and Charlton at SJP

The pathetic ones are those who are quite happy to accept mediocrity and allow things to develop into a relegation battle. The thing is at the minute, it's not even mediocrity, it's worse than that.

Hald on, we'd get him on a free transfer, unattached from Levante. Why should we give them Luque for nowt

News of the World

Based on what, Dr. Hall? bluebigrazz.gif My PHD Pretty huge....... ....Doctorial Reference

blueyes.gif It's all about results well you'll have to wait for results then wont you? its tough shit. We're going through a bad patch, just like @ the end of last season we went through an amaaaaayzin patch. If we're still not winning by January, then i'll be concerned. Have you had a look at the December fixture list? Which games do you suggest are winnable? eh 13th December, Chelsea @ Stamford Bridge. 3 points, no problem. Gawd some people

Interesting read in today's Sunday Sun: Better the devil you know? By Neil Farrington, The Sunday Sun Anyone with time, money and hope invested in the emotional black hole that is Newcastle United has a right to scream blue murder right now. And in any business, the buck stops with the man at the top. So it's hardly startling that the blood being bayed for belongs to Freddy Shepherd. What wouldn't be too much more surprising is if the chairman now decided enough was enough. Never mind he's as Geordie as a bottle o' dog, has overseen the expansion of St James's Park and allowed his managers to spend a gross £200 million-plus on players . . . His hometown team are 10 places and several notches in class below where they were when he took over, the ground is a temple of gloom and much of that money has been wasted by his managers. Mostly the fans' money. His managers. And there's the rub. The less successful the manager, the more discredited the chairman who saw fit to appoint him. One cannot hang the other out to dry. Managers, in the case of Shepherd, who himself has been well paid by the club for his services. The chairman would have people judge him in purely business terms. Well, he has simply got business decisions of too much importance wrong in recent years - most obviously the timing of Sir Bobby Robson's sacking and the appointment of He Who Must Not Be Named - to be spared a backlash. But all that said, I make two points. First, it is strange that the Halls should be spared the wrath of the Magpie mob. Here is a family that has banked multi-millions from the club during Shepherd's tenure for what appears to be a lot, lot less work. A family that - Shepherd in or Shepherd out - holds the club's major shareholding, and all the power and culpability that comes with it. Second, next to the strangers of the Belgravia Group, Shepherd may be the better devil to know. I keep hearing that the intentions of United's would-be buyers are even less well known than the buyers themselves. But, as an investment group, I don't see how their intentions could be much clearer: they are to make money . . . and make it fast. The cash for Belgravia to buy the club would, apparently, come from a hedge fund. And the investors in said hedge fund will have as much emotional commitment to Newcastle United as the average Chelsea fan. That's none at all. In layman's language, a hedge fund lends money for investment in companies - at a very high rate of interest - in search of a big gain in a short time. Two or three years being the norm. They rarely involve themselves in companies like football clubs for the long term. Unlike Roman Abramovich (below), it's cash rather than glory they are after. Cash, say, by getting Newcastle back into the Champions League. Granted, that might seem a short-term aim to savour for supporters. But it seems to me just as likely that the prospect of opening a casino at St James's is the business boost that Belgravia are interested in. And what would become of the club once the profiteers had made their fast buck? Fans should be even more wary of the implications of Newcastle NOT delivering its new owners instant success. Hedge funds tend to impose very harsh conditions on companies in the event of the best case scenario not working out. The fund which helped finance Malcolm Glazer's takeover of Manchester United made such alarming demands that the American switched to alternative funding a year down the line - and had to hand the hedge fund a hefty pay off for providing the initial cash. And what of the man leading the Belgravia Group? The man who, perhaps, might replace Shepherd. I understand Duncan Hickman attended Millfield public school in Somerset and is a fund manager. That's a stockbroker made good (very good) to you and me. As far as I can tell, his football background extends no further than once being involved with the fad of issuing club credit cards. Otherwise, he used to be a director of a management company which represented Jenson Button. He lives in Jersey and, to be frank, doesn't seem to stick at any one thing for very long. In fact, I believe Mr Hickman has been a director of at least 17 companies - not including any arm of the Belgravia Group - in recent years. Does he strike you as the ideal man to run Newcastle United? If you support Sunderland (who know all about people overseeing failure from Jersey), perhaps he does. And if you bleed black and white? Rail against Shepherd all you will. But just be careful what you wish for. Link

Based on what, Dr. Hall? bluebigrazz.gif My PHD

Owen eyes up return By Neil Farrington, The Sunday Sun Michael Owen could make a shock return to action for club AND country this season. The Sunday Sun understands the Newcastle striker is now hopeful of making a comeback from his knee injury in mid-April. And that could mean Owen being available for the latter rounds of the UEFA Cup - if United get that far. England would also benefit, with Owen likely to be in shape to be selected for the Euro 2008 qualifier against Estonia on June 6. There has been a widespread belief that the 26-year-old would not kick a ball until well into next summer after rupturing his cruciate ligament and suffering cartilage damage at the World Cup. But Newcastle boss Glenn Roeder is refusing to rule out Owen playing first-term football this season. And should the Magpies reach the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup, there is hope that he may boost their bid to go all the way in the competition. United's medical staff are closely monitoring the progress of Owen, who is doing daily rehab work at the club's training ground. And Roeder said: "Everything is going the way they want it to go, he looks happy and he is working hard. "If we got Michael Owen back on the pitch to play games at the end of the season, that would be a bonus for the club and for him." Meanwhile, the Sunday Sun understands that no development in the takeover talks between Newcastle's board and the Belgravia Group is imminent. Link Very very unlikely imo

blueyes.gif It's all about results

It's come to the point that I've stopped caring and I'm just waiting for the minute in the match that we fuck up

Forgot how to pass along the floor

the European Super Cup. The Champions League winner vs the UEFA Cup Winner

The same way you agreed with souness no doubt. you can **** right off right this second. Souness was a ****ing cancer and we played awful football, under Roeder we have played well without a killer punch, you're all a bunch of knee jerk twats. a knee jerk reaction is when you base an opinion on something that has just happened, not something that has been building for months. Well said. This isn't over one match. Barring 30 second half minutes Vs Pompey, we haven't played fluid, attacking football once this season. blueyes.gif Not a single performance this season stands out as being a great performance.

Aye, poor Liverpool having to build those ****ing trophy cabinets! What a **** that Houllier was! tbh, shite cup competitions dont interest me a great deal. Two League Cups, the FA Cup, the UEFA Cup and the European Super Cup don't interest you? What does the FA Cup is ok. the rest are piss. Especially if you beat Alaves in the final to win. Is that why we would struggle to win any of them? Yes. Has no-one got that we're shit yet? i.e. we're not the Real Madrid stature team that many people seem to think we are... That's why we should be happy with an FA, League or UEFA Cup. And you think being the best team in Europe is piss?