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Well why don't you piss off back to the other thread you've ruined? why don't you piss off back to the other board you tried to start up with the few people left that still delude themselves about Ashley ? Or haven't got the balls to admit they were wrong when they have disagreed with me all this time. Whats this other message board that the Ashley apologists have set up? I wondered why all the Ashley defenders had gone quiet, I thought it was because the penny had finally dropped and they had realised at last that the bloke has been an absolute disaster for Newcastle, he's set us back years and thanks to him we probably won't be challenging for a decade or more. No wonder a lot of fans are not renewing yep, they hadn't saw sense at all, or weren't going to admit it anyway where as in the spring of 2007, with allardyce in charge, us paying money to our sponsers, the debts rising and struggling to pay the day to day bills, i sensed an assault in the top 4 was just around the corner.

Everyone except Barton and S. Taylor as far as I'm aware. enrique ?

i'm unfit but available. sweetie

start drinking.

many mackems on RTG are convinced they are down after yesterday.

sick of accumulators. sticking with singles till i build up again.

He did just before the impact, still Gomes got the ball before brining down Carrick. It was the wrong decision to give a penalty but in my opinion nowhere near the scandal people make it out to be. If I'd made that decision in my game today I'd probably have been beaten up. under 9's ?

but can't expensive football just borrow more money from, err....ah aaaaaaaaaand we're off! THAT'S MY LINE !

oh dear. wonder what the likes of mick, mandiarse, baggio [predictably disappered and frantically searching for some club, anywhere,that has won 2 or 3 games think of this. And Dave too, not forgetting Dave, as whatever I post, he';ll dress it up, compain I dont reply to him [because IIm trying to be diplomactic] i very much doubt they'll be too bothered.

and van der sar nominated for player of the year.

but he did.

most of the correct points are relevant, but have been said before by me and a small handful of others Dave. Its just that fewer people are disagreeing with them now. it's true you know. few people disagree that fred and co done well for a while. it's also true that few disagree that he left us in a mess. no, a mess is where Mr Ashley will leave us, not where the Halls and Shepherd left us - which was a european qualification only 12 months before left and an established top premiership club. But I suppose its all about perspective isn't it. The only thing they did was be victims of their own higher ambitions and expectations. euro qualification 12 month earlier...so what ? a year is a long time, ipswich went down a year after qualifying for europe,obviously they must have been good as they were a year before. the clubs finances were in a mess. thats why belgravia and polygon legged it. rising debts built on the back of contracts the club couldn't get out of without making losses on the transfer fees. did someone mention that we were paying our sponsors ?. how clever is that ? never mind. we can't get by day to day. we agree on something though. they were victims of their own ambition. (so was george reynolds) George Reynolds didn't achieve anything. true but he was a victim of his ambition. and i've said in the past that if fred had lead NUFC to 5 consecutive league titles then 3 years later had us going backwards and looking like he couldn't change it , i'd say "sorry fred, time to go" Well, lets hope Ashley can at least match the puny achievement of qualifying for europe more than anybody else but 4 teams. if he does i hope he doesn't fuck it up afterwards.

not surprised at what ? That 37% of season ticket holders won't renew ? I'm not in the slightest. Still, the plan to restore the finances of the club, is on course it would appear. what about all those other clubs with a supposed 30 odd % not gonna renew ? that survey you are using as vindication has man utd (champs league semi fina;lists...likely league winners) on 36%. engage brain before thumping on keyboard eh ? what about all those clubs with debts who aren't going to end up like Leeds ? Including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal ....... engage brain for thumping on keyboard, and you've had years to work this one out. what has any of that to do with the 36% of man utd supporters in a dodgy survey who are gonna give up their tickets. oh can you think of a reason or two why arseal and liverpool have differing finances to us ? i can you are digging a deeper hole every time you post. I'm not. For some strange reason you appear to think everybody but us does things correctly all the time. wrong. i do think that when clubs make mistakes they end up paying for them. as you keep saying. Well they paid for it, and you have what you want which is a new owner. no. the company made the mistakes and the company is still paying for them.

most of the correct points are relevant, but have been said before by me and a small handful of others Dave. Its just that fewer people are disagreeing with them now. it's true you know. few people disagree that fred and co done well for a while. it's also true that few disagree that he left us in a mess. no, a mess is where Mr Ashley will leave us, not where the Halls and Shepherd left us - which was a european qualification only 12 months before left and an established top premiership club. But I suppose its all about perspective isn't it. The only thing they did was be victims of their own higher ambitions and expectations. euro qualification 12 month earlier...so what ? a year is a long time, ipswich went down a year after qualifying for europe,obviously they must have been good as they were a year before. the clubs finances were in a mess. thats why belgravia and polygon legged it. rising debts built on the back of contracts the club couldn't get out of without making losses on the transfer fees. did someone mention that we were paying our sponsors ?. how clever is that ? never mind. we can't get by day to day. we agree on something though. they were victims of their own ambition. (so was george reynolds) George Reynolds didn't achieve anything. true but he was a victim of his ambition. and i've said in the past that if fred had lead NUFC to 5 consecutive league titles then 3 years later had us going backwards and looking like he couldn't change it , i'd say "sorry fred, time to go"

most of the correct points are relevant, but have been said before by me and a small handful of others Dave. Its just that fewer people are disagreeing with them now. it's true you know. few people disagree that fred and co done well for a while. it's also true that few disagree that he left us in a mess. no, a mess is where Mr Ashley will leave us, not where the Halls and Shepherd left us - which was a european qualification only 12 months before left and an established top premiership club. But I suppose its all about perspective isn't it. The only thing they did was be victims of their own higher ambitions and expectations. euro qualification 12 month earlier...so what ? a year is a long time, ipswich went down a year after qualifying for europe,obviously they must have been good as they were a year before. the clubs finances were in a mess. thats why belgravia and polygon legged it. rising debts built on the back of contracts the club couldn't get out of without making losses on the transfer fees. did someone mention that we were paying our sponsors ?. how clever is that ? never mind. we can't get by day to day. we agree on something though. they were victims of their own ambition. (so was george reynolds)

not surprised at what ? That 37% of season ticket holders won't renew ? I'm not in the slightest. Still, the plan to restore the finances of the club, is on course it would appear. what about all those other clubs with a supposed 30 odd % not gonna renew ? that survey you are using as vindication has man utd (champs league semi fina;lists...likely league winners) on 36%. engage brain before thumping on keyboard eh ? what about all those clubs with debts who aren't going to end up like Leeds ? Including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal ....... engage brain for thumping on keyboard, and you've had years to work this one out. what has any of that to do with the 36% of man utd supporters in a dodgy survey who are gonna give up their tickets. oh can you think of a reason or two why arseal and liverpool have differing finances to us ? i can you are digging a deeper hole every time you post. I'm not. For some strange reason you appear to think everybody but us does things correctly all the time. wrong. i do think that when clubs make mistakes they end up paying for them.

most of the correct points are relevant, but have been said before by me and a small handful of others Dave. Its just that fewer people are disagreeing with them now. it's true you know. few people disagree that fred and co done well for a while. it's also true that few disagree that he left us in a mess.

not surprised at what ? That 37% of season ticket holders won't renew ? I'm not in the slightest. Still, the plan to restore the finances of the club, is on course it would appear. what about all those other clubs with a supposed 30 odd % not gonna renew ? that survey you are using as vindication has man utd (champs league semi fina;lists...likely league winners) on 36%. engage brain before thumping on keyboard eh ? what about all those clubs with debts who aren't going to end up like Leeds ? Including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal ....... engage brain for thumping on keyboard, and you've had years to work this one out. what has any of that to do with the 36% of man utd supporters in a dodgy survey who are gonna give up their tickets. oh can you think of a reason or two why arseal and liverpool have differing finances to us ? i can you are digging a deeper hole every time you post. i'll answer it for you, just i'm off to bed soon.

not surprised at what ? That 37% of season ticket holders won't renew ? I'm not in the slightest. Still, the plan to restore the finances of the club, is on course it would appear. what about all those other clubs with a supposed 30 odd % not gonna renew ? that survey you are using as vindication has man utd (champs league semi fina;lists...likely league winners) on 36%. engage brain before thumping on keyboard eh ? what about all those clubs with debts who aren't going to end up like Leeds ? Including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal ....... engage brain for thumping on keyboard, and you've had years to work this one out. what has any of that to do with the 36% of man utd supporters in a dodgy survey who are gonna give up their tickets. oh can you think of a reason or two why arseal and liverpool have differing finances to us ? i can you are digging a deeper hole every time you post.

na...he's the forum scratching post. long may he continue. (i know fans from other clubs watch in on this. they are increduthingy)

not surprised at what ? That 37% of season ticket holders won't renew ? I'm not in the slightest. Still, the plan to restore the finances of the club, is on course it would appear. what about all those other clubs with a supposed 30 odd % not gonna renew ? that survey you are using as vindication has man utd (champs league semi fina;lists...likely league winners) on 36%. engage brain before thumping on keyboard eh ?

aye. crazy eight bonkers ain't he. even better with spanish commentary even though i dont understand a word.

the feeling is........"BROADER STRIPES"

Agreed. I Still love this one. http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll71/ludwigfalkman/magpiesmaglia.jpg http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,52238.msg1374448.html#msg1374448 thats the fella. i'd even go for the white stripe on the sleeve being under arm. making the black arm bolder but still striped.

Turn right out of Kings X and there is a Scream (yellow card) pub 3/4 mins walk toward Euston that will have it on. Not the best but will def have it on. It has some trains related name. "the brown tunnel" maybe ?