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Our relegation had fuck all to do with Ashley putting his hand in his pocket or not, it was about his abysmal man management skills and desire to put his friends before his business interest. That's what got us relegated and cost us a fuck load of money. And people talk about the finances as if they're Ashley's strong point. One of the top ten stories on BBC now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12901992

Can't imagine they need the money enough to accept an offer from us rather than either hanging on to him or selling him to Spurs or Man U for more.

Also see Adam, Charlie.

I'll be at Wembley again like a proper glory hunter. Saying that, I did follow them away to Shildon. Was like going back in time.

So we don't want debt like Man U and Liverpool (Or Arsenal for that matter), we don't want to be the plaything of a rich owner who will buy success like Man City or Chelsea, we don't want a team full of cheap but effective cloggers like debt-free Stoke, we don't want to sign players on £70,000 a week like Spurs, we don't want to be relegated with a team full of has-beens and never-wases like Wigan or West Brom, what kind of club do we want to be and what do we actually want to achieve?

Have the Chicken Littles considered supporting any of the many clubs throughout the leagues who live nice and sensibly, treading water within their means, won't take a punt on the wages or fee of an exciting looking player, sell anyone who develops well during their time at the club if they get a good offer and never show any drive or ambition to improve the club? Wigan seem to be on a pretty sound financial footing, and they won't go into meltdown if they go down, go and watch dull as dishwater Championship Football in their three-quarters empty stadium, much better as a supporter than having £100m debt and 18 premier league titles. Is it the dawn of the internet that's created this breed of fan who seems to support financial facts and figures more than what goes on on the pitch on a match day? So unbelievably wide of the mark, it's untrue. Genuinely staggered that such a (usually) decent poster could be so out of touch/ignorant of other clubs in the league. Surely they are though? i mean, they're following the perfect formula of being owned by a wanker sportswear tycoon, refusing to pay premier league wages and using the main procurement/retention tactic of being a club which will give a premier league stage to players not proven enough to get into most top-tier sides with the understanding they can fuck off as soon as anyone else is interested without difficult decisions about whether to go or accept an improved package to stay. I can't say that the finances of Wigan FC are something even a keen follower of the Premier League would be exposed to much in their day to day media consumption, but the last I heard Whelan was about to pay their remaining debt and leave them totally debt free, which puts them in a Champions League spot in the imaginary table of financial shrewdness, even as they serve up turgid bottom of the league shit to the fans who actually watch them play. http://www.footballtradedirectory.com/news/2011/february/whelan-to-clear-50m-wigan-debt.html

Have the Chicken Littles considered supporting any of the many clubs throughout the leagues who live nice and sensibly, treading water within their means, won't take a punt on the wages or fee of an exciting looking player, sell anyone who develops well during their time at the club if they get a good offer and never show any drive or ambition to improve the club? Wigan seem to be on a pretty sound financial footing, and they won't go into meltdown if they go down, go and watch dull as dishwater Championship Football in their three-quarters empty stadium, much better as a supporter than having £100m debt and 18 premier league titles. Is it the dawn of the internet that's created this breed of fan who seems to support financial facts and figures more than what goes on on the pitch on a match day?

Presumably got the idea from Charlie Sheen. "Howay marra, ahve got tiger blood!"

Doubles or trebles?

Some of the most vitriolic are from scousers, what the fuck have they got to moan about?

Michael Owen has set up a Twitter account @themichaelowen but no Tweets yet. Keyboard injury? So @themichaelowen joins the world's biggest microblogging site amid great fanfare but then fails to tweet. How art imitates life. @themichaelowen. He'll tweet twice and his phone will stop working for three months!! Do I sound like a bitter toon fan? @themichaelowen disgusting behaviour at nufc. our captain and you didnt care you wanker. fuck off. love your england career.

If we are going to sell him, can we get it over and done with and start looking at getting a replacement and investing the money please, rather than dicking about humming anf harring over contracts and bids and then being stuck playing James Perch there for ages?

Quite like the black trim.

Well, that was shit. Lived in Stoke for three years and it's no exaggeration to say it's the worst town in England, a frothing pot of dog shit and smack heads.

Good start to the season now turned into a relegation fight. Thanks Mike, you thick cunt.

Would some cunt, any cunt, take us over please?

Everything about this game has been fucking appalling. I'm going to piss in four pint glasses, take them to the bar and ask for a refund.

They look more likely to get a forth.

You include yourself in that accusation? Absolutely, went into the Liverpool match fucking incandescent and was placated by the result.

Useless fucking fannyrat, though to be fair the fans deserve him for lying down and accepting the appointment.

Can't see where a goal would come from.

Would that mean that the winners of the competition wouldn't be allowed to defend it the following season?

Makes me wonder if the Goodfellas one was adapted from another club where there was at least some tenous link, like "Goodison Fellas" or something. Stoke are probably wondering why the fuck their club shop has a t-shirts with a picture of a load of old TVs stacked on top of each other with "Town Town Red and White Army" written next to it.

It's not the club doing these, it is a 3rd party supplying the club, Everton have the same design as well. But Everton and Man City are both in two-team cities where their local rivals are scorned as being supported more by glory-hunting outsiders than locals. The joke doesn't work for Newcastle and Sunderland.