BlueStar

That would be some manager!

Please don't punctuate the site like this either !!!

I wouldn't dress up in anything even remotely resembling a sandwich if I was going to confront Fat Fred.

And you're how much further up the table with your team of europe contenders?

Don't believe the might Brutal Deluxe got through with a pathetic 31 points. Still, in cup games, sometimes you've got to win ugly. At the end of the day, that's the price on the ticket. Much better showing this week, 57 points with supersubs Scotty Parker and Ian Pearce yet to step up in replacement for malingerers Ronaldo and Ashley Cole, who have both been fined a weeks wages by the BDX incumbent for their no-show this game week.

Think we're going on the Wednewsday now just to cover all bases (wed-sat rather than thurs-sun)

The official site is now warning that the tie may be moved forwards http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~910242,00.html

Fuckin' hope not - I've managed to get thurs-sun off work to go over.

Canny bloke but he's not good enough. The next guy won't be either.

Much better! (Although I guess it's just because he's used to european football, seeing as his performances previously have been because he's not adapted to the premiership )

Yeah, it was only near the end of his time with us Bellamy sorted it out a bit. He mostly made up for it by minging it along so fast so he ended up in a position that not even he could miss (or at least not miss all the time anyway )

He's shown the odd bit of pace, when he's not looked scared to run at defenders at least, but nothing like the Bellamy or even Owen style player some are claiming he's already proving to be. Obviously running of the pitch faster is a bit of a joke, partially because I've very rarely seen players peg it off the pitch when they've been subbed as if they've been dying to jump in the bath with Titus, but it reflects genuine concerns about it - especially because if he has that pace, at the moment, like early Bellamy, he's going to need to use it to make up for his lack of compsure in front of goal.

. You'd be moaning even more about him than at Martins. How far would you like to take this hypothetical argument? Oh I’m sorry, then! I’m sure you’d be praising his astonishing pace, deadly finishing, dazzling dribbling skills, amazing strength, great technique, fantastic passing and his unbelievable vision. Bearing in mind the Martins appreciation thread, I imagine there'd definitely be at least some people saying that as long as wor Carlton managed to turn up to the game on time and put his shoes on the right feet! Calling into question the indisputable fact that Martins must be must be Pele's better brother based on what we've seen of him so far does not equate to writing him off, calling him shit or wanting him to fail!

Yep, the way we're playing is one of the factors which has meant we've not seen what he can do yet. This is one of the reasons we can't proclaim him to be a "terrific buy" or "incredible" yet.

faster than he had ran all game? he was fucking lightning all game. never seen anything like it, and he has great stregnth and teqnique. not pleased with his composure in front of goal, but it should improve. i see what crumpy means, with that chance he really should have done better at, but its too early to write off his striking prowess atm. We obviously have different definitions of "lightning." I'm not sure we can judge his technique yet, thanks to his early-shola style first touch today we didn't get a chance to see it. my definition of lightning is getting onto your own through ball. you need more than quick leggs to to that as well, you need a quick mind. no hesitation unlike lescott after he'd passed, we was straight onto it. Erm... You mean when he played a ball somewhere where there was nobody whatsoever, no toon players, no defenders, no one running on, then jogged over to pick it up again because there was no-one there to challenge him? I thought the lad was a waste of space today, Sibierski outshone him and he's 4 years older! Bluestar don;t make yourself look like a pratt. (sibi only 25btw???) Sigh, it was a joke about the 21/28 thing mate. Sorry, I though Sibi looked more positive for us, but he certainly wasn't brilliant. If Martins is strong he needs to show it rather than going to ground so often and looking for a free kick. I've yet to find anyone in real life who thinks he had a good game yesterday. the bloke behind me made the quip about Martins running off the feild faster than he'd gone all game, the bloke next to me said "I was about to say that" Met my mates after the match and one of them pointed it out, the other guy said "Aye, that's what they said around me as well." I'm not writing the guy off, but people pretending he's shown us an indication of what he can do are kidding themselves. How much of a stretch is it to claim that by having to go across the pitch and pick up his own misplaced pass that he was "So fast he could run onto his own through ball"? Maybe we can get this Baron Spells character to work some magic and make him show a glimmer of the player he's supposed to be. Sorry mate, don't talk such utter shite. I went down to Villa singing the lads name in the car, in the pub and while he was warming up. I want him to succeed and I was very happy when we signed him. but that doesn't mean I'm going to pretend he's incredible when he's had one half decent game against West Ham and he's not shown the supposed lightening pace he's got, performed woefully in front of goal and failed to play to his strengths so far. Why did you want Souness to fail, etc, etc :roll: I've never said he's shite. i've said he's not played well so far and I don't see why it should be mandatory to pretend he has.

This thread literally makes me cringe. He was poor yesterday and the most passion he showed was when he was frantically waving his arms at the ref every five minutes as he went down after minimal contact (again). I'm sure the lad's got talent, but please. "Oh my God, he's come on the pitch! He's wearing a TOON SHIRT! Look, it's just like mine. He obviously LOVES the club. He's going to be the best signing ever! He KICKED THE BALL! HE DID IT AGAIN! Fucking hell, remember when Shearer used to kick the ball? Well, we've finally found his replacement lads. Oh he fell over. BUT HE'S GOT BACK UP! Look at that PASSION, DRIVE and COMMITMENT!" I'm not writing the lad off, but I really can't believe how deep people are digging to try find this potential he's supposed to be showing.

faster than he had ran all game? he was fucking lightning all game. never seen anything like it, and he has great stregnth and teqnique. not pleased with his composure in front of goal, but it should improve. i see what crumpy means, with that chance he really should have done better at, but its too early to write off his striking prowess atm. We obviously have different definitions of "lightning." I'm not sure we can judge his technique yet, thanks to his early-shola style first touch today we didn't get a chance to see it. my definition of lightning is getting onto your own through ball. you need more than quick leggs to to that as well, you need a quick mind. no hesitation unlike lescott after he'd passed, we was straight onto it. Erm... You mean when he played a ball somewhere where there was nobody whatsoever, no toon players, no defenders, no one running on, then jogged over to pick it up again because there was no-one there to challenge him? I thought the lad was a waste of space today, Sibierski outshone him and he's 4 years older!

faster than he had ran all game? he was fucking lightning all game. never seen anything like it, and he has great stregnth and teqnique. not pleased with his composure in front of goal, but it should improve. i see what crumpy means, with that chance he really should have done better at, but its too early to write off his striking prowess atm. We obviously have different definitions of "lightning." I'm not sure we can judge his technique yet, thanks to his early-shola style first touch today we didn't get a chance to see it.

When he was subbed he ran off the pitch faster than he'd run all game. Too early to write the lad off, but he's not shown me any promise of his potential so far.

Too early to judge him, but I've not seen owt yet to show that he's going to be any good. Although was it martins who played a cracking ball forwards for parker last night?

Y'reckon this is what Shearer said to Keane? "One day you're gonna manage the mackems!"

Used me wildcard already in a feat of astute managerial excellence.

He was woeful yesterday, and a few of my mates who've backed him to come good had finally had enough of him by the time we trudged out. I've been disappointed with his lack of passion, failure to produce hot dogs, and the distinct lack of jumping frogs in his game. Time to cut our losses I think.

From strength to strength How exactly does Roy Keane currently fall under the heading of "World Class Manager"? What are the odds of him pulling the boots on, can't be worse than the shower of shite they've got playing for them at the moment. :shock: Though to be fair, if I was a Sunderland player I'd be fucking shitting my keks right now mind.

Another reason to hate the twat Might make it quite difficult for them to sign the kind of ex-premiership has beens they're going to have to look at to strengthen the team, bearning in mind how many of them he's crunched.