Pata

There's no point in passing the ball as there's no movement off the ball and HBA knows best option is to go past 3 players himself.

Yeah, he actually looks better when he attacks from fullback because of the extra room that affords him. I don't think he should be starting against Stoke though... This. He's just technically not good enough to be playing winger right now. When he gets the ball it's either a cross from far away or pass back to Santon. He doesn't even try to beat the fullback. Probably just down to low confidence as he used to challenge fullbacks with his quickness. Still high hopes that he develops into a good squad player.

If you have player like HBA you want him on the ball as much as possible.

Get a new job Froggy.

Why not Marveaux?

I think the players has given up. First we was playing the wrong formation, than it didn´t matter because we couldn´t hold on to the ball. Now though it doesn´t matter how we play because the players aren´t doing anything. They are just standing there, we are even losing 20/80 duels. My eyes hurt and it's HT.

Only "chance" I remember was Fergie crossing from the freekick.

Nicolas Cage

Feels like we have less players on the pitch.

Ridiculous decision ref, come on...

I loved that chip over Valdes. Yes but doesn't bode well for us. I just seeing us handing them the ball and initiative

I loved that chip over Valdes.

aye, i'll be putting some on southampton....ease the pain Only time I've bet against us was the 2010-11 away game against Spurs when I saw Alan Smith in the starting line-up. Like printing money.

Very true. Southamptons odds tomorrow look great. Jinxing the 3 points to us is considered.

Mackems winning.

50€ mackems dnb/Man U/Stoke/Arsenal @ 8.07 50€ Fletcher to score in a mackem win @ 4.00

Lovely timing. With all the internatinal breaks he gets injured when we have three league matches in a week.

100€ Gala/BATE @ 4.51

He would touch the ball two times per game if he played where you are suggesting. It's better for us if he touches the ball at least somewhere on the pitch.

Yeah, was supposed to put that in there too but forgot.

It's definitely not luck, it's just not THAT AMAZING. Didn't think that the goal was that amazing, there will be better goals scored this season. Just when you add that goal to the fact that he had already scored a hat-trick makes it special especially as all the goals were pretty nice.

I can't see much wrong with Swedish media wanking over Zlatans 4 goals against big football country and on the opening game of a new stadium. Zlatan is the boss, hope he now gets some recognition in England too.

Also went to see if I have any money left on the Finnish national bookie to put some daft bet on, found 10.80€. http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7558/bettttw.png 10€ returns 709.50€