Dinho lad

Roeder is a shit manager......he's proved this for few clubs before us. Out you go!

What facets of Shay's goalkeeping makes him streets ahead? better shot-stopper, Jussi seems to be king of the hollywood save Jussi's handling isn't as good as Shay's more consistant, very rarely do we see Shay make mistakes Better shot-stopper is arguable, fairly similar imo. Handling? What like on crosses and corners? Shay doesn't make huge clangers but he also takes very few risks which doesn't help the defence. Our defence is shit which dosen't help Shay.

yeah second in the league eh................ Errrr....or losing the title by 1 goal difference on the last day of the season.

survived relegation.

Wouldn't want to be an Ajax fan or a player right now.

Don't believe Bellamy myself tbh. He loves Newcastle really.

If Shay Given is just a good shotstopper, then Jaskalinen too is no more than that.

I said to my work mates that we'll still qualify for the next group stage of the CL even after we lost our 3rd game.

Stop being negative. This is the time to celebrate our survival.

the fact that he played that style due to budget could be seen as a given, too obvious for words however bolton have been safe from relegation troubles for quite some time now yet they still base their game on the same style with a few minor additions such as you mention - their primary tactic is still the same however hence you being only able to name diouf and anelka as current first teamers that don't fit the "horrible" category how long do you give him to transition his style from one to the other before it defines him? the lad nappy mentioned allardyce has had time and i'd agree; he's hardly set up a production line of free, developed talent in his time has he? nor has he blown loads of cash in tripe, granted as mentioned previously steve coppell has brought reading up playing nice football on a budget so a budget is not an excuse... is allardyce a pragmatist who can adapt his style to club he's at or is he a one trick pony? this whole thing largely started today 'cause i said the later and people disagreed with me Coppell has done exactly what Pardew did last season, where are West Ham now? As people have said, Bolton have changed their style and do play good football now. Sometimes they resort to the old fashioned bully boy football against better teams because it gets them results. If you expect us to play like Arsenal every week then we will need more than a Coppell to manage it every season and not find ourselves in the s***. We will also need to spend quite a bit (again) on players who are capable of it. Allardyce plays "effective" football, he gets results, sometimes its not pretty but sometimes it is. lets shake hands and head off in the opposite direction, we'll never agree i just hope you remember all this if allardyce gets the gig....might come back to haunt us Fair enough. Thanks for debating this in an adult manner aswell. Blatantly a dig at HTL, tbh.

You, in your own admission, blamed Souness 100% for Newcastle's troubles when he was manager here. We know he was a shite manager, but that was ridiculous really. .

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cleeeeeeeeever!

"Hey Michael, someone pissed on that ball."

Don't blame him, to be honest. I think Koeman is a good manager but his tactics, especially against Liverpool, were absolutely awful. I also believe PSV surrendered a long lead at the top of the table. Now it's all level between 3 teams with one game to go. It seems like PSV have blown it big time.

And I even remember HTL describing him as "very good" at the time. Somewhere on toontastic I think it was....shame I can't be bothered to go and get the quote.

You gotta laught at those people who were fooled by Roeder towards the end of last seasons. Not least FS.

Forward thinking manager. I like.

Yeah, and I'm sure Shearer playing alongside him hasn't helped Bellamy's game. Bellamy was no superstar when he signed for us, you know.

Anyone remember Hugo Viana's pass for Dyer's goal in the 3-3 league cup game against Everton? I think that was much better than the one versus Chelsea.

Arrghh..I don't want Espanyol winning the cup! They're the team that Gullium Balague supportes! > And he's the dude that laughed at us when we were beaten by Partizan Belgrade.

kingdawson: What a plonker!

Unfinished business at Newcastle my arse.

Maybe Oba knows something we don't. Lads....I think we've signed 5 world class players!

so what happend between souness and gullit then?