Wullie

Sometimes you get managers at the start of their career who might get away with talking about players that way simply because of who they are and what they've achieved. Tim Sherwood? A bang average midfielder who got a Premier League winner's medal purely because he had Alan Shearer in his team? Good luck with that Tim.

Our path would have seen us either bottle it at home to Wigan, or if we'd fluked that, bottled it at Man City today anyway. Yup, like I said, I'm glad we forfeited. Well done everyone concerned.

We played a much weaker City side at home in the League Cup, then congratulated ourselves for taking them to extra time and losing.

So glad we forfeited this competition, couldn't see us getting through this tough draw.

Bruce signing Cattermole finally pays off for him. Pardew will be racing round his living room after that draw. "Thank God". Fucking cunt.

Fucking class.

Hull could really have done with a half time lead because the mackems' chances of a goal improve tenfold when Johnson and Ki come on. I'm livid about that penalty.

Luckiest fuckers in the known universe.

Not all of us are.

FWIW I think the Europa League does have some massive flaws. Misguided shite like letting the Fair Play winners in and bloating out the early rounds has done it absolutely no favours. Would I ever choose not to be in it? Unless it's to swap for a Champions League place, not in a million years. I miss the days when I took it as granted that we were in the competition and one thing I always thought highly of Shepherd for was when other clubs were turning their nose up at an Intertoto place because they didn't want to start the season in mid-July, he would always throw our hat into the ring.

But progression to what? Champions League contention is essentially only for a self-perpetuating cohort of rich clubs. Europa League? A discredited farce of a tournament. Nothing more than a scrap thrown to second tier clubs. Even if you do progress through (at great expense and little reward) to the knock-out stages, stronger Champions League failures await to in all probability knock you out. Dave's covered the cup point but this is absolute bullshit as well. Even a cursory glance at the last 16 draw of the Europa League shows that it contains some of Europe's biggest clubs. The only ones who treat that competition as a "discredited farce" are Premier League clubs run like ours, who care only for how much money an extra league place can get them. You sound like you've been completely conned by the Premier League/Champions League hype machine, as if that's all that matters. Even if all that you say were true, those experiences are what being a football supporter is all about. So we ran into a Champions League dropout and got knocked out. Oh well you're right, what a waste of time. Never mind that there were young Newcastle fans in Lisbon, in Moscow, in Brugge, seeing their club play in an environment that most football fans never get to experience. I went and watched Newcastle in a game we had no chance of winning in the Nou Camp ten years ago and it's still one of the best footballing experiences of my life, and always will be barring a miracle. Absolutely rank attitude, and one that far too many of our supporters have (somehow) acquired. No wonder the club think they've got free licence to bin off every competition whilst some of our fans are applauding them for it. Christ knows what fans of perennial Championship clubs must think of us when they see our fans giving it "ugh Europe again, what a farce". It's embarrassing.

If your team is regularly not just losing but getting absolutely smashed at home off a team that is consistently in the bottom five or six, it's a fair bet that you've not got the right man in charge anyway. The fact that it's them just exacerbates the issue. Anyone who wants him in charge for the next derby obviously doesn't work with any of the horrible bastards.

I agree that we can do better but with more a ambitious owner. I just don't think it's worth going for a new manager whilst Ashley still owns the club. Cool, we'll all just look forward to the mackems racking up another dozen derby victories and an unprecedented win streak that history shows is unbelievably difficult to reverse.

How is the spending irrelevant? How many times to do hear managers given credit for the jobs they have done on little resources? Because he isnt making the signings. Exactly, those managers find their own players and build their team themselves. You can hardly say our first team is a reelection of our net spend over the last few years. We have, even after losing Cabaye, a very good first team that the right manager could potentially break into the top 4 with, obviously if certain signings were permanent. Most peoples arguments however do not revolve around the position we're in, in the league, 8th and looking up isn't that bad this time of year (we could do better, but could be worse) it's the turgid football on display during match day, the inability to play to our strengths, the cowardly approach to games, the inability to fight back from a losing position, the continuation of defeats from the mackems. Yes our league position is somewhat acceptable, but everything else is nowhere near! That's before we go into our off field antics and Pardews latest in a long string of misdemeanours. That's why I want him gone at least. Your point is fair enough if you believe our squad is capable of more. But I am one of those who think our squad is probably punching a couple of positions above its weight. You think we've had a weaker squad than West Ham?

Pity they can't keep him away from the training ground too.

If there's one thing I can't stand it's fans of any of the three big North East clubs wishing each other well. Vomit.

He wanted Carrick instead of Butt but Shepherd thought that because he was a Geordie, Carrick would end up forcing a move here so we'd get him cheaper in a year or two.

At what point are their heads together before Pardew pushes forward quite forcefully? Just absolutely blatant lying going on there.

I certainly never saw it coming.

Meyler's always been a complete arsehole but funnily enough there's only one manager who has seen fit to headbutt him. Just our sheer bad luck that it was our whiter than white manager who would never otherwise act like a complete cunt on the touchline.

Just goes to show how much certain people will defend the bloke. He can literally do anything and be in the right.

On the other hand do you think someone would be arrested for it? Unless it was a really petty. jobsworth police officer I reckon he would have in and told them to calm down. If it were seen, you'd 100% get arrested for it. A push in the chest is enough to arrest for common assault if someone makes a complaint. Not that I'm saying he should have been. Just sacked. Immediately. And not for that.

So not Arsenal then. Can't trust them to do any thing. True like, don't really trust anyone to see them twats off without shredding my nerves. Be a lot happier if fat Bruce does the job next week.

Most of me wants Hull to swat them away next weekend but part of me wants them to get City or Arsenal in the semi, spend a load more money and lose again. As long as they don't get to that fucking final again.

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