BottledDog

With Jigsaw at Huddersfield.

A draw would be fine. That said, have to say right now I think I'd enjoy a Liverpool defeat far greater than a run of the mill Sunderland defeat.

Saved for Bendtner. Pardew keeps banging on about any new number 9 having the right character for the shirt, and to be fair if anyone believes he's the next coming, it's Bendtner.

He's not in charge' of Newcastle United, he's the first team manager. As most managers generally are these days. Think most managers in England still have the final say (or at least some say) on transfers. Pards clearly doesn't. Carr has come out and said emphatically that all he and the scouts do is put names forward, then organise trips for the manager to see the players play. That's as far as their involvement goes, it is then up to the money men, with the final say going to Pardew. Is Carr now also part of your imagined cabal of liars at the club? Wut. Pardew certainly has no say when it comes to outgoing transfers, that much is clear. It's pointless even discussing the managers influence at the club though while we have these muppets at the helm. The best we can hope for is a decent coach. Is Pardew a decent coach? Probably not. That was a reasonable 'Wut' to that line tbf. Pardew has a say in outgoing transfers, just very little when it comes to the big one's or transfer disputes. Again, I think that is fairly standard across the board. I do believe he has a good degree of control and the final say in all incoming transfers. Just my opinion of course, but the players he has brought in are not randoms, they are all players that fill gaps in our squad and change the philosophy of the team quite dramatically. I believe this is something Pardew along with the scouts has put together without influence from the board. So assuming we have or are trying for one of Pieters or M'Bengue, I guess they're the same type of full back to fit into the style of play Pardew wants. Are they both attack minded or defensively minded players? Being both left backs, I'm going to go with 'defensively minded players'. Am I right? What do I win?

For closure's sake can we please lock this thread? Difficult to find closure if there's not a thread in which to grieve.

Maybe I'm being blind by not seeing this, but has anyone posted this or the Chronicle article? Don't see it on the Chronicle site. The Journal had a story on it today, think someone said the Chronic will do a piece on it tomorrow. Very good bit of diplomacy from Pardew by all accounts as it seems to have impacted board/player relations for quite some time now.

Being sceptical is fine, we certainly should be, I just don't see that Pardew should be vilified for saying those things when there is little else he can say. It's down to the board in the end as always. he shouldnt be vilified, he should be recognised for what he is. an average manager taken on by people who's motives are money related and nothing to do with football, with the understanding that he has no say in who comes or goes. he speaks on their behalf and picks the team,and i guarantee you 50% of the members of this board could do just as good a job. What twaddle.

Being sceptical is fine, we certainly should be, I just don't see that Pardew should be vilified for saying those things when there is little else he can say. It's down to the board in the end as always.

@MsiDouglas Mark Douglas Spoke to someone close to Nile Ranger. Mystified at the Den Haag link, so chalk that one off for the minute Just thinking back though, would tie in with his 'the futures bright, the futures orange' tweet (which we thought might have been about Blackpool).

Bloody well hope not. He is a winger, and little more. If you watch Obertans interview on nutv, you'll be left in no doubt that he'd far rather at some point see himself as a striker than a winger.

Going by his press conference today, he doesn't think either is leaving. .... Meanwhile, in Spain. http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Fabregas-Barcelona-shirt.jpg

Ah man, I hope that happens.

WHAT A FUCKING SHAMBLES!!!1!1!!!

He's not in charge' of Newcastle United, he's the first team manager. As most managers generally are these days. Think most managers in England still have the final say (or at least some say) on transfers. Pards clearly doesn't. Carr has come out and said emphatically that all he and the scouts do is put names forward, then organise trips for the manager to see the players play. That's as far as their involvement goes, it is then up to the money men, with the final say going to Pardew. Is Carr now also part of your imagined cabal of liars at the club? Wut. Pardew certainly has no say when it comes to outgoing transfers, that much is clear. It's pointless even discussing the managers influence at the club though while we have these muppets at the helm. The best we can hope for is a decent coach. Is Pardew a decent coach? Probably not. That was a reasonable 'Wut' to that line tbf. Pardew has a say in outgoing transfers, just very little when it comes to the big one's or transfer disputes. Again, I think that is fairly standard across the board. I do believe he has a good degree of control and the final say in all incoming transfers. Just my opinion of course, but the players he has brought in are not randoms, they are all players that fill gaps in our squad and change the philosophy of the team quite dramatically. I believe this is something Pardew along with the scouts has put together without influence from the board.

Very odd. A great shame if true.

He's not in charge' of Newcastle United, he's the first team manager. As most managers generally are these days. Think most managers in England still have the final say (or at least some say) on transfers. Pards clearly doesn't. Carr has come out and said emphatically that all he and the scouts do is put names forward, then organise trips for the manager to see the players play. That's as far as their involvement goes, it is then up to the money men, with the final say going to Pardew. Is Carr now also part of your imagined cabal of liars at the club?

Fair enough, I really hope not though. He said it would take 5 games to get the new players up to speed. To even have people thinking about his sacking before 15 games into the season would be criminal imho. As we're effectively rebuilding the whole team, the guy needs time unless the players are consistently under performing.

He's not in charge' of Newcastle United, he's the first team manager. As most managers generally are these days.

Stoke must be unbelievably clueless then, Pulis has just said that they hope to bring in another 5 to 6 players before the end of the window. Poor deluded saps. "We could do with desperately getting those players in as quickly as possible" was also said. Why haven't they done it then? dunno, perhaps if they'd raked in 40 - 50m in transfer fees in the last 8 months they might have managed it? They are not saying they won't get them in though. It's not always down to cash.

Stoke must be unbelievably clueless then, Pulis has just said that they hope to bring in another 5 to 6 players before the end of the window. Poor deluded saps. "We could do with desperately getting those players in as quickly as possible" was also said. I don't doubt that we're trying to do the same.

Stoke must be unbelievably clueless then, Pulis has just said that they hope to bring in another 5 to 6 players before the end of the window. Poor deluded saps.

No, because that would be brazenly twisting his words. Well done for being the first though. Why haven't we replaced him then? Surely having two left backs at the club is not that outlandish? Every other team in the division seems to manage it OK. We will replace him. As I've just said, he just pointed out that we couldn't afford to have 2 first choice left backs on our books. Disappointing obviously, but not particularly outrageous either. Especially if we are looking to bring through Furguson and in particular Kadar this year. I think that's a reasonable post, but its just the fact that we have NO left back before our first league game of the season- against a team like Arsenal- is what really kills me. Why should we be in this position? We shouldn't, that's all there is to it. We should have either bought someone weeks ago or stood firm against Liverpool and only sold Jose until we'd signed a replacement for him. Why does everything for this club have to be so difficult? We're a fucking joke. I'm way off saying we're a fucking joke, but I agree with everything else you say there.

No, because that would be brazenly twisting his words. Well done for being the first though. Why haven't we replaced him then? Surely having two left backs at the club is not that outlandish? Every other team in the division seems to manage it OK. We will replace him. As I've just said, he simply pointed out that we couldn't afford to have 2 first choice left backs on our books. Disappointing obviously, but not particularly outrageous, especially if we are looking to bring through Ferguson and in particular Kadar this year.

So he wasn't saying we couldn't afford a replacement for Enrique, but that we couldn't afford to have 2 first choice left backs on our books. Disappointing obviously, but not particularly outrageous either.

No, because that would be brazenly twisting his words. Well done for being the first though.