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Everything posted by Dokko
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Stadium now delayed, owners have ran out of money due to the credit crunch or some shit.
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Blue Peter badge is in the post mate.
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What that Billionaires Chelsea with a super squad can afford to let things go to the wire to get the luxury players they want? Aye, am well buzzing about it too.
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I like your thinking. But i'd want Benayoun & Pennant.
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Has he even had a game in the prem? (out of interest) I don't want to sound like I know fuck all but, who is he ? Dong fanzhou (sp) Just been released by Manu...for being shit.
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mackems.gif @ Liverpool
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http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=19161.0
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Has he even had a game in the prem? (out of interest)
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Was expecting Cech to collect his award in his head guard tbh.
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Aye thats what im saying Didn't Celtic take 4pts off manu last time in the groups? I'd say its almost certain you are not getting a win at Celtic, in fact only Barca have ever beat them in Europe on their own turf.
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Manu nailed on to get a shower of shite.
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What exactly do you regard as a shit job? Buying Guthrie, Coloccini, Bassong and Jonas? Negotiating £8m for Dyer, £4m for Shola and possibly £10m for Milner? Seems pretty competent work to me so far. Where did we finish last season? 12th. Where did we finish the season before? 13th. That's an improvement, bitch. No doubt you'll be fuking your mother in her arse in celebration when we finish 11th? No, it'll be your mother You're a berk if you thought it was as simple as getting a new chairman, getting a new manager and bolting up the league straight away. Need I remind you that there are 13-14 clubs who can and are aiming to finish where we want to. Needless to say I want to be top of the pile but it's not an overnight thing. It'll take another year or two before we start to reap the real rewards of Ashley's reign and see what he's really up to. We haven't spent as much as I would've liked over the past few months but bids for the likes of Modric and Woodgate, as well as signing Coloccini and Gutierrez (who's compensation package ranges between £5 m-£15 m, depending on who you listen to) show money is there. I get the feeling we've had a real issue attracting players this year with a major tournament occuring this summer. Most of our original targets were at clubs who were unwilling to let them move because they knew a good Euro 2008 would add an extra couple of million onto their fee and a bad Euro 2008 would allow them to keep 'em. Even under Robson we had real trouble during these years (need I remind you of the Miguel saga which saw us end up with Stephen 'kin Carr?) so i'm not overly worried that we haven't spent too much this year. It's not ideal but I don't really think anyone at the club is to blame. Haha, i apologize for the daft comment, but we'll have to finish at least 9th for my mother. All those are valid points, but none more than if we spend big and build a decent platform to play off, then were going to see progression a lot quicker, the odd over paying for a player is irrelivant if we have a billionaire owner ready to spend and we achieve Euro football in the process.
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Its crazy how many do not understand this.
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Komical Komrade Kenyon: - Sheva was a success http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4059874,00.html Blues chief executive defends former striker Peter Kenyon believes Andriy Shevchenko provided value for money during his time at Chelsea. The Blues chief executive was defending accusations that the recently departed Ukrainian striker had proved to be an expensive flop at Stamford Bridge. The 31-year-old arrived in England for £30million back in 2006, bringing with him a reputation as Europe's most feared hit-man. Nine goals in almost 50 appearances would not appear to represent a sound return on the considerable investment paid out by the Londoners, and he has returned to former club AC Milan with a point to prove. Industry However, Kenyon insists Shevchenko should not be labelled as a failure as he fulfilled his duties at the club. "I get fed up because it's not right," he said. "I'm not giving a lesson on accountancy, but you do write money off over the term of a contract. "What we pay is in an investment. During that period you have a player who is doing a job and in this industry you buy and sell players." Pragmatic Kenyon accepts that some deals turn out better than others, citing the summer signing of Portuguese playmaker Deco as an example of how to bring in quality acquisitions at a sensible price. "You have to look at these things pragmatically, sometimes these things don't work as well as you want them to," he added. "Remember, we got Deco for £8million and that looks to be the buy of the season. "You have got to counter theses things and we are happy with where we are."
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A huge kicking i reckon.
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What exactly do you regard as a shit job? Buying Guthrie, Coloccini, Bassong and Jonas? Negotiating £8m for Dyer, £4m for Shola and possibly £10m for Milner? Seems pretty competent work to me so far. Where did we finish last season? I can remember you panicking before we turned things round and saying something like "Fuk Keegan" so I thin k we finished quite well considering your suicidal state at the time. I was pissed off at the board for not signing recruits in the winter window, can't remember me actually directing much towards KK. How many points did we finish of relegation anyway? 7? Yeah, no reason for anyone to be concerned eh?
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Fair enough, I read it as though you didn't expect Abramovich spending with him but would with another 'better' billionaire. Implying he's failed. I find it strange that you'd like to see him go though, the last thing we need is yet another period of change. Just not impressed mate, were ripe for some decent cash injection, but we never seem to do it. I watched Citeh last year do exactly what we should have done, if we had, with a more stable owner, it would be us brining in top players at the drop of a hat since were moving forward. Now you could say he didn't have his own manager, well now he has, and this summer's spending although good in terms of the quality, is only about half of what we need to have a strong season. I cannot see us signing 5+ players of the same quality in the time we've got left, therefore were in for another tough season, and another season lost where we could have easily made an impact. Man city finished a whole 12 points ahead of us..spending a massive amount more They tailed off, but considering the state they were in only weeks before kick off they had a pretty good season. The uncertainty and surroundings went sour with Thaskin's trial and inevitable sacking of Sven, coincided with their captain going to leave for free, yes they had a tough end. What i'm saying is if we spent that money, and with the stability the current regime has brought, we'd be X amount of points ahead of them, possibly with a Euro spot at least intertoto. Recruiting this window would have been a dream, we need that push, KK for all his talent can motivate these lot, but in the end the squad is small, lacking in talent in certain areas and that will only fix itself with new faces, a big push of players all at once would sort all that out, then afterwards we can buy and sell until we get the right team, keep on progressing, moving forward. If KK is only going to be here for 3 years, i want that big push sooner rather than later, i don't want him leaving just as its going to get good, for some knob jockey to come in and destroy it all again.
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What exactly do you regard as a s*** job? Buying Guthrie, Coloccini, Bassong and Jonas? Negotiating £8m for Dyer, £4m for Shola and possibly £10m for Milner? Seems pretty competent work to me so far. Where did we finish last season? Also, let us not forget that he is the owner not the executive director who is involved in day to day dealing with the club nor is he the manager who runs the game. Would you reckon you could change a below-par company into a hugely successful company in just 1 year? Would you reckon you could make your worst grade (assuming it's a 40/100) into an extremely good grade (assuming it's a 90/100) within a year? - assuming university level? Of course, those aren't necessarily a good comparison. What I am trying to say is he needs to be given time, his own proper structure and his team of players. Have he not said how he intend to do it? or how many years it will take? or what his aims are? For Christ sake... it's been repeated times and times again. How about looking at it like restoring an old car since it seems you are in to this? You could order the parts, one part at a time, and in a couple of years get it road worthy, or you could order the lot in bulk, and get the fuking thing on the road ASAP so its actually some use to you. Both will cost similar, in fact you could save delivery or shop around better if your car is on the road and getting you places.
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Fair enough, I read it as though you didn't expect Abramovich spending with him but would with another 'better' billionaire. Implying he's failed. I find it strange that you'd like to see him go though, the last thing we need is yet another period of change. Just not impressed mate, were ripe for some decent cash injection, but we never seem to do it. I watched Citeh last year do exactly what we should have done, if we had, with a more stable owner, it would be us brining in top players at the drop of a hat since were moving forward. Now you could say he didn't have his own manager, well now he has, and this summer's spending although good in terms of the quality, is only about half of what we need to have a strong season. I cannot see us signing 5+ players of the same quality in the time we've got left, therefore were in for another tough season, and another season lost where we could have easily made an impact.
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What exactly do you regard as a shit job? Buying Guthrie, Coloccini, Bassong and Jonas? Negotiating £8m for Dyer, £4m for Shola and possibly £10m for Milner? Seems pretty competent work to me so far. Where did we finish last season?
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Completely contradicting yourself there. What recent comments btw? Not really, i wasn't expecting it from him, but that doesn't mean i wouldn't want to see it happen, no contradiction in my eyes. How he cannot restore us to where we belong by himself and he needs help from investors, basically saying, i cannot afford to put my own cash in to this, but i do not want to sell up. He'll not suffer, he'll get everything and more back, while we stand still. Rather him go tbh.
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Serves her right for marrying a short arse ugly twat just for money. Keep gambling it away Chops, don't let her spend it on shoes. Swing your way to freedom!!!
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I expected more commitment than he's shown in terms of finance, i wasn't expecting RA style, but something decent to jolt us forward quickly, then to let the club build on that by itself. As it is, he's done quite a shit job so far and it won't get any better from his recent comments. Wouldn't be arsed to see him leave for a proper billionaire.
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Agreed, but he's seriously fucked up with the transfer request & the PFA have in turn made his position untenable with their statement today. Sorry but how? Telling everyone its basically down to more money. So we offer a new contract and its all sorted, no move, his position isn't untenable, he didn't make it public. He doesn't deserve a new contract though. If he wants to leave, he should be prepared to have the fact in the public domain. All the club have done is confirm what he has told them, without giving the intricate details. The decision on that bit has been made by the PFA. Could quite easily have played the "European football" or "Need a change" card and moved on with people's best wishes. Still that's the route his "advisors" have chosen for him. All valid points, and yes imo he doesn't deserve a new contract, but i'd be more pissed off if he gave the waffa cup crap as a reason to leave. What really gets me, and this is comical in my eyes; is that Taylor only 10 months ago with contract running out wanted an improved deal to match Milners, and the club said no, only 6 months ago he still wanted the same deal, and the club fuked about while the fans slated the shit out of him for demanding it (or rather his dad making an ill advised choice) yet his contract runs ever closer to the bone during the summer, and if you are to believe since his new deal has been signed its upset Milner, who now wants the same as him! Meaning, our bullshit wait about strategy has not only cost us a considerable wage hike in one player, its upset another. Now i hope i'm reading this right, as that's what a lot of people on here seem to think has happened, if so... Comical set of events drawn out by a joke of a club, sorry like, but nothing ever changes round these parts, we're our own worst enemy. Allardyce said Taylor was offered the same as the lads his age but turned it down, so it's fair to assume he held out for improved terms. Milner took what was on offer and is now pissed off that Taylor earns more, well he should have thought of that when he was on more than Taylor over the past 12 months. It's all guesswork btw, none of us know what either are earning. That's true, it is all guesswork, but from memory Taylor wasn't being offered what Milner was offered, it was considerably less than him and the Zog, and he felt (rightly so) he deserved the same. I'm pretty much sure that's the case, as much as i can be. Now people are saying he's on more and its upset Milner! If so we've done ourselves up the arse, and it was inevitable over stalling with Taylor going to get more, just no one saw Milner having a hissy fit.