James

We need a win to have more points than Derby had at this stage of last season.

Owen will score IMO.

Great minds.

Probably best if you go away for another 30 mins or so.

Check out the Everton message boards, I'm sure it'll end up on there.

Kinnear has missed both goals.

People who criticise Geremi ahead of so many others in the team are clueless IMO.

Taylor scores. Glimmer of hope?

Nope. We are going down in my opinion. Carrying on like this until November is going to destroy the club beyond repair.

I hate Butt. Average player with a bad mentality.

Isn't it great having a manager on the touchlines to instruct the team

Owen could break the record of the most consecutive goals at Goodison Park today. Come On!

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8ball says "Indications say yes"

Being on a course is much different to having an actual job. How many journalism courses and students are there in the world, and how many jobs are going - much less.

It can work if the responsibilities are clearly defined. Clifford has always been 100% a youth coach. He is only interested in youth coaching. I couldn't see him stepping on KK's shoes.

That is because no-one is getting appointed.

Really shit joke NSG, go to your room.

I'd play: Given Coloccini Taylor Bassong Enrique Geremi Guthrie N'Zogbia Owen Duff Xisco Kinnear won't though.

Missed a sitter in the second half.

I'm ashamed to call you a fellow fan. Love me, sitting in my chair having not been to an away game for 18 months.

Aarg, I could have gone to that game if I'd known about it

The consensus, almost from day one, was that Souness cunted into the club and tried to manage like an army colonel -- e.g. respect through pulling rank, instilling fear and intimidation. I haven't heard a bit of that about or from Joe yet. My take on Joe is he's trying to appeal to whatever professional pride might exist in the squad. To get them at least playing, if not for the club, then for themselves. Frankly, if they've lost that, then he has no hope regardless -- soft touch or not. My original post didn't make the assumption that JK would try to manage like Souness, it was more of a comment that if he wants to be a success, he should play nice, whereas what you are quoting is my response to the attitude that Kinnear should be blasting his players if necessary. Just want to make that clear.

If he's still here in January then I will agree with every word. At the moment I'm taking it at face value that he'll be here for an interim period only. On that basis he has my full backing to blast the press, light a fire under the arses of previously disinterested players and get some fucking results. Won't work. The length of his contract will see to that. The length of the contract is unavoidable because the club is in the process of being sold. If the players can't be arsed because of that then fuck them tbh, it's a disgraceful attitude. It is the modern game, it is up to Kinnear to adapt to the players not for the players to adapt to the manager. It is one of the first rules of management. Didn't people hit Souness with that particular stick?