Zero

That's a poor shoot, Joselu

Fucking hell, that should be yellow

Aaron cramped during midweek. I support him to start next week but not today.

Best lineup we could have, sad Lejuene couldn't make it.

You should go and support the Manager. Sing it out.

As much a negative effect as not resolving the bonus situation (again)? As much a negative effect as not getting the investment in the squad they probably believed would be coming? Do they want to be scrapping around at the bottom of the league all season or do they want to be part of an ambitious club on the up and trying to win cups? What about the new players who were convinced to come here and will have had other offers, do you think they're happy about what's happened? I know footballers are full of themselves but I highly doubt they are happy with the prospect of the manager they all seem to love and respect being lied to and f***ed over, potentially leading to a long, hard season resulting in relegation. Yours are the best possible reaction from the players. Mine is the worst possible reaction which the players think Rafa has absolutely no confidence on them by publicly stating the squad is shit and not good enough for EPL. That's why I say Rafa has to manage this carefully. The only way for us to survive now is Rafa has absolutely full backing from the players and the fans, you should agree with this right? The crowd reaction today will decide our fate this season.

I think Rafa is right to speak out, but you can't deny that his words do have negative effects on the players and he really have to manage it very carefully. If it is just pure PR war then fine. If it leads to Rafa losing the dressing room then it's the nail on the coffin. Before someone to jump in and say fuck off how dare you criticise Rafa and not the fat cunt for this, please kindly read my first sentence again. Thank you.

Probably the result is not the most vital one today, the crowd reaction is. You have to show to the management your support for Rafa and make the Spurs moment happen again. That's probably the last chance to force Ashley to free some fund for Rafa. Come on lads.

I am more confused that Rafa has to pay compensation (quoted at 6m) if he wants to leave. We all believe that Rafa can walk freely when Ashley gone back to his words, and that should be in the contract. Strangely this is not the case.

This is the ultimatum from Rafa, obviously. We need a crowd response like the Spurs game. Come on lads.

Was it Zero? I don't think so, may be you should read his posts again before posting shits like this?

Really though? I know where you're coming from, but to me it's pretty obvious. Mitrovic just doesn't cut it and we don't have the benefit of being able to let him develop in the first team, we need someone that's ready now. In that case, at least sell Mitro now to recoup some cash and get other body in.

Dembele is a flawless dribbler: two footed, quick feet, silky touch and tons of skills. Brilliant talent, but he has to be coached on his mental side. There is obvious risk behind, but Barca has no choice.

I can't understand the rationale to play a knackered Remy and let Mitrovic rot on bench.

Excellent news. Hopefully more to go, then more to come.

What is this gamble? The TV money I.e. The 60M you mention. In most of the fans perspective it's earned. In the fat c*** point of view it isn't. It is spending before earning (which in fact hasn't put into our bank yet) and thus it is a gamble. And by locking up the amount up, Ashley cost of relegation is covered. Are you making this up? So MA's strategy is all about preparing for failure against 99% of other owners who are preparing for success. Do you see when you look it like that it's either insane or a clever PR narrative to keep people wondering about intentions. Why does it look strange to you? We are saying once Rafa gone we are done. The fat cunt definitely know he won't get another better manager so likely the result is done too. Then tell me if Rafa tell the fat cunt money or die, should the fat cunt prepare for the worst for his own interest?

Damn it, I gotta say the last time, I am NOT defending for the fat cunt, okay? I am just explaining what's the unrealistic part in most fans view, especially about the spending power we actually have, and pointing out in fat cunts head locking the future income up doesn't make sense for his own interest, okay? FYI I am all for having an Abramovic for us. That's the only way out.

Stabilising the club in the premier league would increase the value of his asset. The first season back is always going to be the most expensive however once he has a squad fit for the PL the spending can be scaled back. Yup, but what if your manager tell you give me money or we must relegate then? In fans perspective it must be give. What if it's your own money? Any contingency plan you can do?

What is this gamble? The TV money I.e. The 60M you mention. In most of the fans perspective it's earned. In the fat cunt point of view it isn't. It is spending before earning (which in fact hasn't put into our bank yet) and thus it is a gamble. And by locking up the amount up, Ashley cost of relegation is covered.

How about take a look at my original post before posting sth like this?

Too long to quote. The fat cunt won't look in this way. Say the gamble paid off, the 60M won't go to his pocket as he publicly stated that this is Rafas. However if the gamble failed Rafa won't be here and he has to bear the consequence. Why would he do the gamble then?

Please explain what is loan from club owner and why it has increased to 129m term loan + 33m further loan = 164m as per latest account A loan is money owed (to Ashley), which needs to be paid back at some stage and is interest bearing (we pay for it in free advertising). It is not the same as putting money in and expecting nothing in return. The debt was 70m when he bought us (mainly related to late 90's stadium extension as a 57m mortgage which had to be repaid in the event of a change in ownership). He then added 29m to pay off existing player transfer fees that were spread out in one go, another 29m as the cost of the first relegation (his mistake) and another 33m after the second relegation (again his mistake). He also profits from this loan fiscally as he offsets it in his holding company, hence paying less tax over his profits. So in short: no, a loan is entirely different to putting his own money in (as most other club owners have done by the way). Give me examples that a normal club in EPL would have an income item called "owners donation". He could have signed a sponsorship deal with sports direct and funded us that way. You know, pay for the advertising space. Yea, by market price, additional 4m per year? unless it is the difference between relegation or not, would this help to give us an additional Batshuayi? Have you got evidence to back up your £4m a year figure? Preferable using a similar sized club, and a similar amount of sponsorship granted (including the team going to do meet and greets at Sports Direct and also the huge roof advertising)? May not be directly comparable, but the quick source I use is Everton 31 May 2016 annual account which club size is larger than us (sadly). Total revenue consist of Broadcasting 82.5M Gate receipts 17.6M Advertising and Sponsorship 9.3M Other commercial revenue 12.1M Just very quick math, I assume the max sponsorship in market for our size to be 10M per year. Our wonga deal is 24M for 5 years so I assume it to be 5M. So assuming 1M for other advertising we get, the max loss in revenue is 4M. Very rough calculation though.

As far as I know, kit sponsorship should be the most expensive. I really doubt our club sponsorship could be more than what we got from northern rock wonga 888 etc.

Please explain what is loan from club owner and why it has increased to 129m term loan + 33m further loan = 164m as per latest account A loan is money owed (to Ashley), which needs to be paid back at some stage and is interest bearing (we pay for it in free advertising). It is not the same as putting money in and expecting nothing in return. The debt was 70m when he bought us (mainly related to late 90's stadium extension as a 57m mortgage which had to be repaid in the event of a change in ownership). He then added 29m to pay off existing player transfer fees that were spread out in one go, another 29m as the cost of the first relegation (his mistake) and another 33m after the second relegation (again his mistake). He also profits from this loan fiscally as he offsets it in his holding company, hence paying less tax over his profits. So in short: no, a loan is entirely different to putting his own money in (as most other club owners have done by the way). Give me examples that a normal club in EPL would have an income item called "owners donation". He could have signed a sponsorship deal with sports direct and funded us that way. You know, pay for the advertising space. Yea, by market price, additional 4m per year? unless it is the difference between relegation or not, would this help to give us an additional Batshuayi? Some owners pay above market price for club sponsorships. Like you know, a clever accounting trick to inject funds to the club. Yea, or they can write off debt for free, like Man city. And this is sugar daddy owner which I suggested 1. Ashley will never be and 2. Lot of EPL clubs dont have.

I said I am very puzzled that people are suggesting Ashley to in fact act like a sugar daddy this summer which is unrealistic, and this is partly due to an over estimation of our club spending power which the annual account has showed, even if taken into account those "manipulation" Ashley did. Got it?