The College Dropout

It’s ok that our owners have spout empty PR talk? What is their actual ambition for the club. — I stopped being actively angry at Ashley when i knew what the game was. It will be the same with PIF however things turn out

Eh I don’t support Palace I just wish them well. For my formative years we were in different divisions, rarely crossed paths. When we did/do it’s a Newcastle win in my heart every time it’s not even a debate. But Palace vs anyone else and I want Palace to win.

I’m not the one decrying that a multi club model or a dodgy relationship with another club will be the straw that breaks the back of my fandom and support. I’m supporting Newcastle United until we are owned by a murderous reg..wait! Theres no large swell of Newcastle fans upset at our ownership on moral grounds. No large demonstrations or walk outs. We hated the other guy - cos he made our team and club shit. He could’ve ran the most ethical businesses itw and we still would’ve hated him. Because all we care about is NUFC. Him being a sheisty business owner was just more reason to hate him. My second team is actually Crystal Palace. Previous majority shareholder and current Chairman is a local fan and businessman, responsible for overseeing the greatest era in the clubs history. A lot of people on here call him all kind of rude names. Palace have large American ownership but in terms of the PL are one of the cleanest acts. They even manage to field a large number of localist players. Few of you care. Or rate them as a positive of the modern game. Lie to yourselves if you want.

Strong squad.

I wouldn’t mind so much if it was slow and careful. But it hasn’t been careful. It’s been careless. The owners didn’t even bother to announce an interim CEO.

You don’t loathe it enough though do you? We have the most professionally run ans supported grass roots football in the world.

We did the big one. Bought by an oppressive state. You are all here

You don’t care enough about the Saudi ownership. You didn’t care when we did a dodgy deal with Forest to avoid PSR issues. You disnt care when we got an Sela sponsorship higher than any non Saudi company would offer. And if we went multi club you wouldn’t care either if it brought success. You don’t even care that much about us signing a player for similar actions that Isak did. Our hands are already covered in blood. We already represent some of the very worst aspects of modern football. But it’s multi club that is too far?

Nobody is forced to support premier league football it’s hard to participate in modern life without a smartphone There’s a lower league football club local to you that you can support easily. Many boycotted under Ashley. Nothing stopping you boycotting the Saudi’s. But you won’t and few people have. Because this is a bit of a golden era. If we bent the rules or even broke them - if we were successful you would still support

Do you know who we are owned by? I advocate for having someone with equity in an active leadership position because we need someone with skin in the game to reach the Owners' supposed aims. What we've had since Amanda has left is precisely "another soulless business enterprise, run by moneymen who are happy to stab their own mother's for a profit". Amanda herself fits that bill but she put her soul into it. Can't fault the team and manager, coaches etc. Whatever soul Marinakis has, he puts it into Forest. Can't guarantee the same for our Owners. Fans don't care about Saudi ownership. You think our fans would care about a multi-club model that benefitted us or a dozen APT deals? That's what most people want, the rules to fall and for us to have "a level playing field" with the cartel clubs.

Agree Botman is becoming an issue.

Central midfield. Each wing. GK. A full back.

Exactly. 2 players to my knowledge. so all this talk of ‘well players are just here as a job’ as an excuse for the post doesn’t entirely wash. Only 2 players have publicly supported him since the move with social media posts. One is his best friend in the squad. Aa far as I know. None of the captains have. I don’t really care but Gordon is annoying. I mentioned before he plays in a way to make people think ‘he gets it’ but he doesn’t. I don’t really care if he produces. But he’s not consistent. Bruno and Joelinton do it too but the actually walk the walk in general behaviour. Both are liable for a fee but they try and funnel their focus on the pitch. I would be surprised if they or Dan Burn sent a public social media post for Isak….. because they actually get it from a fans perspective. Gordon pretends to boost his own image.

No he’s class. Always been a big fan of him and a long term believer when others wanted us to cancel the loan. I as one of the first players I bestowed the crown of baller on. I just think he can be got at by class wingers much more than Tino can. Which for some means I don’t rate him.

They don’t regularly get to the latter stages. They’ve turned into England of old. How many semi finals in euros and world cups since they last won one?

There’s so much to this. We are owned by Saudi Arabia. A state that by most people’s metrics oppresses women, migrants, gay people and carries out dodgy trials and executions. Dissidence to the state can result in death. Our owners do way more evil things than they could possibly do with football. They won’t be our owners forever- if you were so principled you would be at a massive distance from the club while they are owners. And your main point about the principles of the game. Welcome to capitalism. I suspect your pension has stocks in companies that have received investigations and sanctions in businesses that have done unethical things. Have you ensured your pension is only invested in ethical firms? The success we have had is entirely down to the Saudi state that most consider abhorrent. Lastly, I’m not advocating rule breaking. I am advocating utilising existing loopholes - as if our ambition is to become a force in Europe within the next 7 years, I think that is needed (and we’ve already done some). 90% of people would utilise a tax loophole if it helped them. If the owners say they just want us to be in and around European places. Cup runs. Then fine. Let’s keep doing what we are doing. Theres a lot of posturing they do so I don’t know what is what. tldr: it’s a current game. We are already corrupt morally speaking.

He’ll not have to run as much for Liverpool and they will have a quality sub option for him too. He’ll be a great 60-70 minute man. I still think there’s another level he could get too physically. Modric is slight, Gordon too but they don’t have much fat on them. Isak is skinny and soft and I don’t think that’s good enough. Not to go all HTL racismo, some of that will be genetic but it’s still not good enough.

I don’t. I would much rather succeed now and deal with ‘investigations’ 5-years down the line.

The durability of Schar and Burn was one of the main reasons we finished 5th. Life savers the both of them.

Cos I think it’s obvious the sensible thing is to call or text him if you must. I do think a number of the dressing room leaders would’ve turned on him.

Apart from Botman did anyone else post a public good bye? Dan Burn? Bruno G? Joelinton? Schar?

If you are spreading Isak’s amortisation costs - then you have to spread the revenue too. 125/3 =£41.667m of additional revenue for 3 years basically. 30/3=£10m amortisation costs per year we still essentially pay for. So the net PSR boost per year is £31m. That’s the cost of Nick W and Wissa per year. Maybe we didn’t need the Isak money to sign Wissa. But that’s the equivalent. It doesn’t unlock a massive spending spree unless we think we can sell £100m net PSR profit worth of players every season. Thats something only the big 5 can really do.

Ah I get you. im not an accountant but i think you maybe double counting the amortisation saving. if you count the amortisation cost upfront then add in the 130m - you can’t do it again the following year. I believe anyway my accounting module was 15 years ago. The wages aye.

Liverpool sell a Fringe player for £33m every year. Thats game changing. A large sales funnel every year.

The Isak PSR profit covers Nick W and Wissa for 3 years. That’s all. All of Isak’s amortisation disappears at once. That’s about £30m. There’s roughly £33m of extra PSR headroom a year. That’s the PSR cost of Nick W and Wissa for 3 years