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He is? For me he's probably their best player if we disregard De Gea. van Persie has been disappointing despite scoring goals, Mata hasn't done much and the rest is bad. De Gea or Rooney without a doubt for me. I was thinking more Yaya and Aguero. Ah fair enough

I'm willing to put Lucas is the best in my sig if England beats Uruguay as long as you put I-Know-Nothing in your sig if they don't. I think Uruguay will walk away with that group is Suarez is fit.

He is? For me he's probably their best player if we disregard De Gea. van Persie has been disappointing despite scoring goals, Mata hasn't done much and the rest is bad. De Gea or Rooney without a doubt for me.

I agree with this, but doesn't mean he's not a top top player that it seems some are tying to suggest though. He's not one of the best in the world like He is, how you could even argue that is beyond me. Rooney is a great player to watch, give me 20 players better than him that could do a job in multiple positions like he can. One of the best in the world doesn't necessarily mean top 3 in the world, which he obviously isn't. I would say top 7/8 could be defined as one of the best in the world and I don't think he's in that bracket, he is top 20 though. And he's barely top 7 in the Premiership alone, going on last season. Going on form then Diego Costa is probably one of the best in the world and Iniesta isn't even a top 30 player in the world. You can't go on form only though, you have to see what they've produced over the last 24 months at the very least and take injuries and so on into consideration. Rooney has played in a bad team last 12 months and still been able to produce, he's obviously no Messi or CRonaldo but for me he's still one of the absolute best in his position in the world. Also if only top 7 or 8 is one of the best in the world then I'll have to agree he's not one of the best in the world, but my definition is much broader than that.

I agree with this, but doesn't mean he's not a top top player that it seems some are tying to suggest though. He's not one of the best in the world like He is, how you could even argue that is beyond me. Rooney is a great player to watch, give me 20 players better than him that could do a job in multiple positions like he can. One of the best in the world doesn't necessarily mean top 3 in the world, which he obviously isn't.

You seem to like average defenders a lot. I understand your position, but what says that if him or Shawcross arrived that they wouldn't be far worse than they currently are. I've seen Colo have great games, he's definitely regressed a bit but I'm not sure he'd be worse than Dawson.

Rooney is an exceptional player. Anything else is bollocks. Sure he could've been even better, but he's still one of the absolute top in the world. He's not had the best season in his career and despite that he's scored and created a lot for his team. I agree with this, but doesn't mean he's not a top top player that it seems some are tying to suggest though.

How bad wasn't that Robben miss in the 1st half btw

Enjoyed this That list is pretty bad, interesting reads nonetheless. Gascoigne should be way higher than Boniek and Banks should be the highest goalkeeper for sure....I'd have Lineker higher too. That's from an English perspective...time to investigate further. Taffarel World Cup gold, silver and participated in three World Cups. Not in the same League as Banks mate, he was the greatest keeper ever. Not sure why CRonaldo is so high either...he's way above both Gazza and Iniesta??? I've seen very little of Banks, since most of the old match footages I've seen have been with Brazil, Argentina or Germany involved. But while I do see your point, that's World Cup history. Shouldn't it then be the best from the World Cup history and not a single World Cup performance? Taffarel was an integral part of a Brazilian side that won in 94 despite having brought one of the worst Brazilians squads ever to a World Cup and then almost won in 98 playing once again a huge part in the reason getting to the final. As for best goalkeeper in the world ever, I hear so much about Yasin and am told that he was the best ever. Never seen him play a game though, only seen some youtube clips. Banks and Lev were about the same time and although I only saw Yachin and Banks on film....Banks was without doubt better...and that famous save from Pele in 70...Jeez. With regards to the list, I'm not sure why CR and Messi are so high or eve in it at all. Uwe Seeler should be higher and that Brazil 82 side should have more representatives than just Zico....I'd find room above the Platinis and Brolins for Falcao, Socrates and Junior. Zagalo should be higher too...as a player AND a manager must put him in the top 15. List is shit anyways.

Enjoyed this That list is pretty bad, interesting reads nonetheless. Gascoigne should be way higher than Boniek and Banks should be the highest goalkeeper for sure....I'd have Lineker higher too. That's from an English perspective...time to investigate further. Taffarel World Cup gold, silver and participated in three World Cups. Not in the same League as Banks mate, he was the greatest keeper ever. Not sure why CRonaldo is so high either...he's way above both Gazza and Iniesta??? I've seen very little of Banks, since most of the old match footages I've seen have been with Brazil, Argentina or Germany involved. But while I do see your point, that's World Cup history. Shouldn't it then be the best from the World Cup history and not a single World Cup performance? Taffarel was an integral part of a Brazilian side that won in 94 despite having brought one of the worst Brazilians squads ever to a World Cup and then almost won in 98 playing once again a huge part in the reason getting to the final. As for best goalkeeper in the world ever, I hear so much about Yasin and am told that he was the best ever. Never seen him play a game though, only seen some youtube clips. *not saying Taffarel should be the best goalie, just that he should be on that list. Think Zoff is fairly the number 1 goalie there.

In terms of technique I don't mean dribbling and so on, I forget to mention that when I post on here, with technique I mean his intelligence on the pitch his ability to hold up play and get into positions. I understand your point as well, but I think he'll offer Spain far more than Torres since he's able to drop deep or play as the lone up top. I'd have brought Negredo anyways, it's ridiculous that Torres goes ahead of him.

Enjoyed this That list is pretty bad, interesting reads nonetheless. Gascoigne should be way higher than Boniek and Banks should be the highest goalkeeper for sure....I'd have Lineker higher too. That's from an English perspective...time to investigate further. Taffarel World Cup gold, silver and participated in three World Cups.

He has better hold up and technique than both, he's also faster than both and offers a different dimension because of his ability to chase down and win ball up front. He'll cause far more problem than anyone else and will fit their style as he has shown this season he can spearhead an attack. I like Villa, but age is starting to get him and he's not the same player he once was, Torres is clumsy and I haven't seen him have a good game in the blueshirt ever basically.

While that maybe so, he's still nowhere near as good as those going. Plus i'd be very apprehensive in taking Atletico players as the system and style of football couldn't be anymore different if you actually purposely tried. Even Costa i don't think will have as much success. Costa is a ''far'' better footballer than both Villa and Torres. I think that if he gets to be fit he'll give them a different dimension to what their strikers have offered them in the last couple of years.

Always been the case though. That's why I feel Navas was so important. They really have no other option than pass their way to gold which I honestly am not sure will work now that we've seen plenty teams show how you stop it.

Is Negredo injured? Risky as fuck taking Torres and Costa when one is a bad player and the other is in bad fitness. Also Navas always offered them that speed on the right-flank that I think was substitute in late in the 2nd half that could take advantage of tired defences.

Except Vlaar I haven't seen one of those defenders ever play. Well and Martins Indi or whatever, but he surely can't be starting.

Was the best partnership we was last season imo. Neesy?

Ivanovic shouldn't ever play CB proven time and time again he's not good enough there.

£100 on Spain v Holland, you with me Pata? Let's do it.

I'd have Coleman as well tbh.

I miss Solano.

Peru with a parked bus in a friendly

Actually looking forward to this. Hamann off his tits.