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I'm glad not all fans on this forum or those I've met in real life when I was in Newcastle share your opinion. I'm not going to ridicule you, I'm just going to feel sorry for you living in the past and assume you've forgot your meds today. I definitely agree with this though. What I was saying is that TT is blaming the foreign players and defending the likes of Steven Taylor who showed absolute fuck all yesterday as well.

Who has said they had great games? They were trying at least, no one has said they had great footballing games. But Debuchy was running up and down that flank and winning tackles for us. No one had a good game yesterday, no one in a black and white shirt had a good game, but to blame the loss on our squad being full of french players? When two of the geordie boys were absolut shite. Give it a break.

Does that mean Harper or Alnwick? I'd rather give Jak the chance than Steve ffs.

Are we blaming them? How about the Geordie Steven Taylor who was absolute s*** yesterday? Stop blaming those guys ffs based on nationality. We're blaming the lot, but when your team is full of unconnected foreign players and show you no fight in your local derby then it's a problem. Taylor was about the only player apart from Krul who gave a f*** yesterday regardless of how s**** he was. Taylor showed nothing man, what are you on about. Lacklustre display from him, if anyone yesterday seemed to care it was Debuch and Marv and both are french so give it a rest now. Too many foreign players (and fans) who really don't understand what yesterday meant. Hba was laughing and smiling at FT. Fuck right off with the fans comment. I think pretty much all of foreign fans know what this game means to you lot living there and for the club itself. Still you are blaming the french players when two french players showed most heart and hustle yesterday. I find the whole team accountable for the loss yesterday and I find it unfair you blame it on them because they're french. Fuck off with that.

This is me. Someone like Bielsa who is absolutely mental and won't get us CL football but will make us smile for at least 2 years is something I want. I can live with losing and drawing high scoring games after the turd I've had to watch for the last couple of years.

17th no doubt.

Are we blaming them? How about the Geordie Steven Taylor who was absolute s*** yesterday? Stop blaming those guys ffs based on nationality. We're blaming the lot, but when your team is full of unconnected foreign players and show you no fight in your local derby then it's a problem. Taylor was about the only player apart from Krul who gave a f*** yesterday regardless of how s**** he was. Taylor showed nothing man, what are you on about. Lacklustre display from him, if anyone yesterday seemed to care it was Debuch and Marv and both are french so give it a rest now.

And forgot Shola who didn't move more than 3 meters yesterday.

Are we blaming them? How about the Geordie Steven Taylor who was absolute s*** yesterday? Stop blaming those guys ffs based on nationality.

Probably the right thing to do. Well right thing would've been to fire him last summer, but yes it's the option left now at least. No point in sacking him now.

I got to tell you, this team looked more disjointed than Brazil against England in Scolaris first game in charge for the team. Pardew has had 30 months to implement a footballing philosophy...

This. Fucking Colback was terrible and yet we didn't challenge him enough. In the end of the day we have no tactics, all we try to do is to cross and hope Cisse will score. On the odd occasion Cabaye will make an absolute wonderful pass but we are horrible offensively it's like they have no positional and tactical awareness offensively and ultimately it's down to Pardew. Should've been long gone months ago, now we have to live with him for at least another couple of months.

Agreed. He can shake hands and smile with whomever he wants as long as we're winning and he's playing well. That first half from his was for the second time in couple of days a disgrace.

He better get us another 4points. He probably will end this season on some sort of magical run and everything will be forgotten...

Cannot be bothered to argue with a DUDE ,GO watch some American footbaseicehockey s**** I hope you were joking here I'll take that as a yes from your smilies, but otherwise you can fuck right off like with posts like that.

This is what probably angers me the most. Yesterday we were what Sunderland usually are during derbies. Lazy and dangerous in our challenges. There's no doubt that Webb had a terrible game but it was nowhere near in favor of Sunderland. Early in the game I thought Cisse was lucky not to be booked when he kicked someone out of play because the defender was blocking his way. Obviously Adam Johnson should've been off for a 2nd yellow after the goal as he earlier stopped a counter attack by holding Ben Arfa and wasn't carded whatsoever.

It could be argued he's the reason why they haven't played to the same standard tbf. But yeah it hasn't been good enough from top to bottom. TBF as much as I've been called 'hater' in here, you can't blame Pardew for Cabaye not being able to take a corner or pass a ball, Mbiwa for concentration lapses, Tiote for being s***, Ben Arfa for overdribbling and so on... Cabaye is immense for France though. I don't buy it, put him in a well drilled side and he'd be incredible. If Man Utd get him, just watch how good he will be. As for the other things, you can kind of attribute all of them to Pardew, if Cabayes bad change him, or dont instruct him to aim for Willo/Taylor, Tiote, get him to do the simple things, ben Arfa, granted but thats his game. Was talking about today tbf.

Agreed here. Players need to take some blame too. Cabaye is nowhere near as good as what some people make him to be. Harsh, Cabaye hasn't been good of late, but Cabaye is one of our best players man. He runs his socks off and is very precise in his passing game. He's one of the few creative outlets. Unfortunately he's sitting deep and apparently carrying a knock. I'd rest him, he hasn't had a rest since he left Lille with the Euro last year and all. He doesn't stay in position man. Runs around like a headless chicken and commits some pathetic fouls. Don't agree whatsoever. Had I not seen him play before today, I would probably agree, but since he came to the club he has shown more than that. But your entitled to your opinion, I just find it harsh to find the wrongs in Cabaye when we have players like Tiote, Jonas, Simpson, Willy at the club playing games...

It could be argued he's the reason why they haven't played to the same standard tbf. But yeah it hasn't been good enough from top to bottom. TBF as much as I've been called 'hater' in here, you can't blame Pardew for Cabaye not being able to take a corner or pass a ball, Mbiwa for concentration lapses, Tiote for being s***, Ben Arfa for overdribbling and so on... I think you can a bit, you change the corner taker, you dont play Tiote and you train the other two better. Buck stops with him, although the errors made by some can't be helped at times, they're a sympton of the Pardew's inept management. That's what I mean though, but the simple things that you learn when you're a child can't be put upon Pardew.

Was that offside goal you were talking about in the second half ? if it was it was the guy linesman who judged it offside and the same one who missed Taylors tug on Grahams shirt and a hand ball first half ,so get your facts right and apologies if i am wrong , we played s*** and Scumderland played well and beat us but i reckon the ref was just as bad for them and the score may have been worse at the break then it was . Calm down son, read the rest of the posts.

Agreed here. Players need to take some blame too. Cabaye is nowhere near as good as what some people make him to be. Harsh, Cabaye hasn't been good of late, but Cabaye is one of our best players man. He runs his socks off and is very precise in his passing game. He's one of the few creative outlets. Unfortunately he's sitting deep and apparently carrying a knock. I'd rest him, he hasn't had a rest since he left Lille with the Euro last year and all.

It could be argued he's the reason why they haven't played to the same standard tbf. But yeah it hasn't been good enough from top to bottom. TBF as much as I've been called 'hater' in here, you can't blame Pardew for Cabaye not being able to take a corner or pass a ball, Mbiwa for concentration lapses, Tiote for being shit, Ben Arfa for overdribbling and so on...

Agreed here. Players need to take some blame too.

Unfortunately here there's no draft to look forward too. Hate being shit without being rewarded for it. Back to American sports...