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Like I said: Came on did couple of nice things, then noticed we were hopeless and tried to change the game on his own. Didn't work. (not going to blame him for the loss though)

Rubbish! Ashley is the one who makes the decision of who manages the club, the fan's opinions are totally irrelevant to him. We all know Pardew is almost certain to be here next season. I'd hope they wouldn't be totally irrelevant but I get your point.

Elliot Cabaye Sayls Mbiwa Jonas Debuch Tiote Gouffran Sissoko Marveaux Cisse Most definitely.

And they could've been up 2-0 in the first half had Graham gotten the penalty he deserved. Pathetic excuses tbh man.

The real question is what was he doing before that had you defending him? Cajun. Take that.

This to be honest. Last thing we all need after a result like that is the 'I told you so's' joyously dancing on their keyboards. Aye it's bollocks it's as if some people are pleased to be proven right. Has to go now. f*** off with this s***, people have been saying get rid for months and had loads of abuse and snide comments, now those pricks are saying get rid I've had enough, well f*** me some were at this stage ages ago, not their fault people are too f***ing thick to realise where we are going under this fraud. If anything these mugs should be apologising. f*** off man. There was nowt the matter with people being prepared to give him a chance to turn things around after what happened last season. That was the final straw though, no coming back from that. Us late arrivals to the hate campaign should be put through some sort of initiation humiliation. If you hadn't been spouting so much shit the other day I'd be defending you here. Right now I'll just sit back and wait to see you humiliated

Well, apart from our wrongly disallowed goal you mean? And their two penalties?

Good shout. Won't happen. From the currently employed managers I see only Martinez as a realistic option.

I'd swim across the North Sea, walk from the coast to Wigan, put Martinez on my back, carry him up to Newcastle, and then swim back home to make this happen. I'd swim back doing the backstroke with that c*** on my back. Lost all respect for him after he defended that shithouse tackle. Don't think Haidara or any of the players would fancy being managed by him after those comments. Could have a real negative impact appointing him after sacking Pardew, who seems to be reasonably popular in the dressing room if nothing else. Right because you think players care to what journalists writes about manager of other clubs? If Martinez came here and got them to pass the ball around I swear to go Benny, Marv, Cabaye, Ciss, Debuchy, Siss would all be wanking all over him.

Unless you're being facetious, please don't say things like that and refer to us as 'we'. It has no basis in reality. What I meant and have been saying is that those Newcastle fans who meet Mackems every day will get stick (that's what I meant with rough days). It's rough for everyone in the club in terms of football and has been this season, but I was refering to the every day life and the 'banter'. Ah okay. It won't work like that though.

Right except this weekend it wasn't like that. Nowhere close.

Time to resign then.

I'd swim across the North Sea, walk from the coast to Wigan, put Martinez on my back, carry him up to Newcastle, and then swim back home to make this happen. I'd help you out if it wasnt for the fact I don't think I can swim in cold water. But I'd fly to Wigan and carry him with you.

Won't agree with you hear Kanji. For me the goal is as obvious as the handball from Mbiwa. And possibly the shirt tug from Sayls too. Wouldn't have made a difference, confident they'd probably have pushed for a 2-1 win anyways.

Very, very low? Eh? Why not? He might not be signing a new contract at Everton and MA could easily do to Pardew what he did to Hughton; especially if the stories of MA's "ruthless streak" is all true. I mean obviously he'd be a fantastic appointment but surely he'd have better offers and might be put off by Ashley's reputation (which is probably a bit unfairly negative at this point.) And he has a salary of £3m or so a year. No way we'd pay a manager that. Really don't feel comfortable predicting what Ashely would or would not do anymore. True

Fair enough

Still go for Martinez.

Very, very low? Eh? Why not? He might not be signing a new contract at Everton and MA could easily do to Pardew what he did to Hughton; especially if the stories of MA's "ruthless streak" is all true. I mean obviously he'd be a fantastic appointment but surely he'd have better offers and might be put off by Ashley's reputation (which is probably a bit unfairly negative at this point.) And he has a salary of £3m or so a year. No way we'd pay a manager that.

Unless you're being facetious, please don't say things like that and refer to us as 'we'. It has no basis in reality. What I meant and have been saying is that those Newcastle fans who meet Mackems every day will get stick (that's what I meant with rough days). It's rough for everyone in the club in terms of football and has been this season, but I was refering to the every day life and the 'banter'.

That's the hard part to swallow. It's not like they are a good team, they were better because it was clear it meant more to their players than ours.

I understand if anyone really is doing it though. Haven't done it myself, btu the other day I was being insulted on here by some for voicing my opinion. Now these exact same people are either hiding or expressing the same opinion.

Yep - painful that it happened in the Derby, esp at SJP, but it HAS been coming - did anyone on here seriously believe that we would win after Johnson scored their second..? How many times have we scored 3 goals this seasn and won the match as well..? Pardew's teams are negative and over-cautious....they caught us 3 times on the break but in truth, they were better set-up to win the game. We lack rapid movement when attacking, esp off the ball and that makes it easy for sides to draw us in. The fact that we lost heavily to the Mackems is bad , but the main issue is that Pardew has been found out, well and truly. We are now in a big battle against relegation because if we can get caught on the break like this against our friends' frrom Wearside, think how Liverpool and Arsenal will do with their forwards.... WBA and QPR away our best hope of points. Shocking thing is we have found him out, prem coaches have found him out even the dumbest football pundits on the telly has worked him out, yet he still has his followers. I wouldn't be worried about being caught on the break. Now he has giving attacking football two chances we will go immediately back to defensive grind and long ball. There will be no caught on the break, just full on arse raping and sustained pressure. He hasn't given offensive football a chance man. If you think putting offensive players onto the pitch is offensive football I don't know what to tell you other than look at more football games outside the UK.

You can't hate Sunderland. Not going to talk about being classier here but we lost fair and square. It's rough days for you guys over there but we are still one point ahead of them and that's what REALLY matters.

This to be honest. Last thing we all need after a result like that is the 'I told you so's' joyously dancing on their keyboards. Aye it's bollocks it's as if some people are pleased to be proven right. Has to go now. It's not weird is it when people are putting you on the ignore list and calling some of us idiots for being right just couple of days back. (Haven't done it but feel many of us have the right to vent out for being called stuff while being right). I'm happy many are seeing what many of us saw over months ago, I just happen to hate the fact it came against these guys.

Came on did couple of nice things, then noticed we were hopeless and tried to change the game on his own. Didn't work.