Teasy

Its turned into the worst thread, it was just a bit odd initially.

If you think Williamson has went upto £7 million since we signed him your suffering a classic case of "The Delusional Toon Supporter Syndrome". There's been like 10 posts explaining the idea behind this thread and you still don't get it , do you just not bother to read posts? Maybe I was tad low on Williamson because I dont think they will be selling any players bar Best that signed in Jan. But £7million, still £14 million AC So you don't read posts, glad you cleared that up.

I dont have to get anyone in do I & if so why they got be a the same price? If that is case put them all down at £100 million I will sell the lot & rebuild. Guthrie I would look at someone like Steven Davis much better than Adam was at Rangers (not goalscoring though) may have to add little but he would be a improvement imo. Someone as good as Craig Gardner moved for £3.5 million not that long ago. James McArthur has been outstanding for Hamilton for about 3 years now. Loven - I would take a punt on Nugent got 6 PL goals which is not far off Owen & Oba level. Beckford is on free. Kris Boyd is on a free. George Boyd not a out & out striker is on a free. Routledge - I would want to keep him if he went get Pennant. Williamson - Get Loovens. Looked better than Roger Johnson at Cardiff & Johnson was better than Williamson at Wycomb. Williams at Swansea looks a bit tasty. Kadar - Looked good on the box the 2 times I have seen him & he has won shed load of awards this year = Craig Dawson. See what the crack is with Mancienne at Chelsea. But the point of the thread is the fee you couldn't possibly turn down, why snap someones hand off at £2m for Guthrie to pay extra for another player who might not even be good enough, I'd definitely think twice if someone offered me those kinds of fee's. £2m too good to turn down for Kadar??

If you think Williamson has went upto £7 million since we signed him your suffering a classic case of "The Delusional Toon Supporter Syndrome". There's been like 10 posts explaining the idea behind this thread and you still don't get it , do you just not bother to read posts?

I don't think it was so much that they were particularly attractive to players. It was more that the press loved to link them with every good player going. It created the illusion that they were interesting/signing masses of class players when in reality they were mostly signing loads of cheap players with potential until recently.

Project, I fucking hate that buzzword in Football after hearing the Man City lot use it every five seconds in every interview they did for the last couple of years. Not having a go at you Village Idiot, just every time the Man City lot said it I found myself wanting to kick their faces in. Anyway I'm just glad they've been slowed down. Can't see them signing any players much better then the ones they already have without Champions League Football and hopefully if they qualify next year FIFA will have brought in the rules about spending vs turnover, I can hope anyway

I'd say they're two extremes, one far too high and the other far too low (in some area's anyway). Accepting £2m for Kadar at this stage in his development for instance is crackers IMO. I've gone somewhere in the middle. I'd accept lower fee's but I've added a bit to each since this is supposed to be what we'd accept without even thinking, a too good to possibly turn down fee. If it was a realistic minimum fee things would look quite different.

So if someone comes in with a £2m bid for Guthrie, 750k for Lovenkrands, £2.5m for Routledge and £2.5m for Williamson they're all bids too good to turn down?? Who would we get to replace each of them for that money? Also Kadar's a young lad with lots of potential and you'd take £2m for him in a heartbeat? You're both fucking nuts IMO

The way I read it is that its the point where you wouldn't even need to think about it. Its a bit abstract but I don't understand all the problems people seem to have with it, well actually I do, too many people who don't take the time to read before they post. I'd say: GK Harper – 4 million Krul – 8 million Forster – 7 million Def R.Taylor – 2 million Simpson – 3 million Enrique – 16 million S Taylor – 10 Million Collocini – 10 million Williamson - 7 million Kadar – 8 million Mid Barton – 3 million Smith – 2 million Guthrie – 10 million Jonas – 10 million Routledge – 8 million Nolan – 4 million Fwd Shola – 2 million Loven – 4 million Best – 1 million Carroll – 14 million

For people who can't read it will yes.

I also find it strange to celebrate not being Portsmouth. They've been relegated with a fraction of the debt we had when we went down (and still have). I acknoweldge that Ashley's covering the losses....but he's not run the club ANY better. He can just personally afford to fuck it up more than they could. Is that to be congratulated? You should really stop talking about financial matters, seriously please stop

Fucking hell I knew Stephen Ireland had drink problems but I didn't know he'd hit the crack Have to say while I very rarely like to see the Spuds do well I was praying for them to keep Man City out of the Champions League. The Spuds may have been an annoying media delusion for the past several years but Man City are the worst thing to happen to Football since Hillsborough.

The extra TV money will help us towards breaking even if we don't see much of an increase in costs. I still can’t work out how our debt has doubled in three years. The initial £100m cleared the existing debts and relegation cost us £40m. But we’ve also made a net profit on transfers of £25m, reduced the wage bill by £21m and received £14m in parachute payments. I know these figures aren’t spot on but if the debt is currently about £180m that gives us an average operating loss of £25m a season. Is this right? Where are you getting £180m from?, it'll be more like £140 surely?

Swings and roundabouts, he would take pressure off the defence but then put it straight back on them when he ran into the defender 10 yards further down the pitch. A slightly slower version of the long ball if you were Sometimes he would, often he would run it away and win a freekick, or a corner or give it to a teammate in midfield so they could give it away for him. What exactly could he do in a team with no movement or confidence? Take the entire team on and win? He's only a good player, not Maradona

Our biggest problem was everything, conceding too many and scoring too few and not only because we didn't create either (the likes of Owen missed some excellent chances). Of course creating chances was a problem and he's one of the players to blame for that. But other players in the same side were equally to blame for that and did fuck all else for the side while they were at it.

Nobody looked a geniune threat on a regular basis last season and he did well more then just at Old Trafford. He had plenty of bad games but also some good ones in a side full of under performing players. As usual some seem not to realise that even when he fails to produce an end product he's still giving us an outlet and taking pressure off the rest of the side with his running.

I think awful is overstating the point Definitely, the way he's talking you'd think he was one of our worst players last season or something I'm sure he could have done better in a side that wasn't totally devoid of any confidence. Especially if he'd had a player on the opposite side of the pitch to take some of the markers away from him, like Routledge has this season.

£40m out of £50m = 80% They were the figures being bandied around earlier in the season, but I’m not sure they add up. Turnover was £86m. Loss in TV money takes it to about £50m, but we received about £14m in parachute payments and this year’s transfer dealings brought in a similar amount. Also wages were £71m but the accounts say they have only been reduced by £21m. I'm not sure the accounts say that at all, the £21m is what we brought in from player sales AFAICS.

It's not in there at all But you shouldn't believe what Ernst and Young say like, they're part of the great deception together with Ashley and all that..... Well they did manage to hide all that extra debt for Shepherd that Mike only found after he bought the club. Have we always included manager's pay in the wage bill or is that new? Is the directors pay included in the £73m? That's a pretty big drop in revenue, a lot lower than Llambias was saying only 4 months before the end of that accounting period when he was saying turnover was £100m. I guess some of it could be put down to the boycott, but pretty worrying nonetheless. Ashley's probably lost us more in revenue than he's "put in". Part of the drop in revenue is due to outsourced catering. Instead of recieving all the money (and costs) from catering we now just recieve a fee. Oh and at the last sentence.

The most obvious ones you've missed are Coloccini and Gutierrez. Take a look at the NUFC.com transfers section for a full list of all players in and out. Its nowhere near £40m, more like £20m, which all comes from the current season.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself. You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one. Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal. What a load of bollocks. We were receiving large bids for him and he'd obviously get a pay rise if he moved, so he would be stupid not to ask for a pay rise for staying. It's not like he refused to play or anything either, he was MotM in his last game for us after which Keegan said He signed a 4 year contract the year before and played no more then average for that year. Obviously he saw an opportunity to up his wage when Villa came in. But just because he can get away with it doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it. Do you really think a player should get a pay rise whenever another club comes in for them?, no matter how they've played or when they've signed there last contract?

The Mirror, but that's not much proof since they're the same mongs who think we'd sell him for £1.5m.

Milner's attitude over getting a new contract was a disgrace, most clubs would of sold him over the way he conducted himself. You can't ask for a new contract just one year after you signed a new 4 year one. Especially when you haven't even played well since signing the original deal.

How can he join them on May 10th when the transfer window doesn't open until July?

"He's rated very highly here and he is a big part of the future," explained the manager. Good man. "He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell, and I'm talking about the owner and myself," insisted the United chief. "James Milner won't be leaving here, I'm sure of that." Here's hoping we get a £12m offer for Vuckic..