Northern Monkey

When there IS space, he often is not good enough to see/exploit it. Not saying he's shite - he's a lot better than some "players" a number of our so called fans don't mind having at the club, but he needs more coaching than we can currently give him.

So your point is what? That based on your (not particularly strong) analysis of the situaiton, Roeder was the best man for the job? Thats an unmintigated pile of donkey shite. The Shola Ameobi of arguments.

Injury free!!! - There is ONE Premiership player out at the moment. One. No more. Clueless cockney arsehole.

Hope he isn't, but think he will. I despise him as a manager, he's worse than clueless. At least Souness didn't try to come across as a good fella while he fucked us up.

Did we ever get an adequate explanation for Craig's... leaving us? I remember the rumour being a falling out re Bernard but I have the memory of a goldfish, so...? No, no explaination. Possibly it was down to being forced to play Bernard but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some resentment at not continuing a role with the first team squad, something he clearly relishes at his new job alongside John Collins. This is what the club said at the time - "The club wishes to make it clear that his departure is purely down to further re-structuring of the coaching staff following several changes that have taken place during the period covering the departure of Graeme Souness and Glenn Roeder's full time managerial appointment." Hey, that restructure worked a treat! Roeder and his hand-picked muppets shouldn't be allowed to organise fuck all.

Make cretins like Bramble and Babayaro and Carr be led out by Roeder to that. Then sack the cunts on the centre circle. Oh, and then forget about playing music during the game, its shit.

I like how he's now turning from getting something out of this season, to looking to succeed next season. He's an absolute tosser, a liar, and a fraud as a manager. He should never have been given the job in the first place, and the number of people on here who defended him - and those who defender fucking morons like Moore, Bramble, Babayaro and Ameobi, etc - makes me ashamed.

You CAN judge a striker on their movement on and off the ball, and their ball control. Those things have FUCK ALL TO DO WITH THE OTHER PLAYERS. And in every one of those areas, Martins is relatively weak - AT THE MOMENT. But lets not pretrend that Roeder and his coaching staff are capable of turning his potential into reality, because they aren't. As for Crouch - i don't like him as a player, I don't believe he'll do it the Premiership consistently enough. And he'll encourage a fucking retard like Roeder, and idiots like Parker and Shambles et al, to play the long ball.

ITK. <snigger>

Not the point. Roeder has to go, that is step 1, and its vital. He's not even worth the paper and ink we used giving him his job offer. The fact that no-one is knocking on the door for the job is NO reason to keep a feckless, pathetic, lying little c*** in the job. If that happens then i can see the same thing happening again though. Shepherd will give someone within the club the job until the end of the season (or probably try his best to get Shearer), then they'll get some good results like what always seems to happen when a new manager comes in and he will "win the job". So you think we should keep Roeder??? No, my point is i just do not trust Shepherd at all when it comes to appointing another manager. I can see the same mistakes happening over and over again and the only thing its doing apart from pissing the fans of is making the job less attractive with each manager who comes and goes. Bit fundamentally, Roeder CANNOT be allowed to damage us any further. He HAS to go, now. Whoever we get, its likely he'll be better than Roeder, who is an absolute cretin. Is that good enough though? A manager who is just "better than Roeder"? Any manager who comes in is expected to have us in the top 6 in his 2nd season at the longest. If we appoint an average manager then he might get us in a bit of a better position but that won't be good enough for most of the fans and he will be drove out of the club. We need to identify a manager who we could realisitcally get who would be capabale of getting us back amongst the top 5. I can't think of any of the top of my head who would really want to come though. Its catch 22 really. We cannot afford to make the next appointment a bad one though. True, and i was being a bit simplistic there. But Roeder HAS to go, asap. Regardless of how hard it will be to find the RIGHT man, it is unfeasible to let the WRONG one continue and fuck it up worse. Which he will.

Ye naa what mate ye a ******** **** yee. Everton are a club who have finished in the top four once in 15 years, they don't sell their little ground out and are "a selling club" (Rooney, Speed, Ferguson in recent years). Of course I know football history you mug, I know we were the most succesful club in this country in the 20th century up to 1960, Everton had a few spells of success in the 60's and 80's, so f***. Am I not allowed to voice an opinion that with our infinitely superior resources we should strive to be f****** better than them. Am not ganna say what a think o yee because I'll get banned again. Fuckin support Hibs. We aren't a bigger club than Everton, though. Resources mean fuck all, its about achievement. Getting mug punters through the turnstiles, and wasting money on cuints like Dyer, Bramble and Boumsong means fuck all without some tangible return. As it happens, i think both we and Everton are medium sized clubs. But they have a better histroy than us.

Not the point. Roeder has to go, that is step 1, and its vital. He's not even worth the paper and ink we used giving him his job offer. The fact that no-one is knocking on the door for the job is NO reason to keep a feckless, pathetic, lying little c*** in the job. If that happens then i can see the same thing happening again though. Shepherd will give someone within the club the job until the end of the season (or probably try his best to get Shearer), then they'll get some good results like what always seems to happen when a new manager comes in and he will "win the job". So you think we should keep Roeder??? No, my point is i just do not trust Shepherd at all when it comes to appointing another manager. I can see the same mistakes happening over and over again and the only thing its doing apart from pissing the fans of is making the job less attractive with each manager who comes and goes. Bit fundamentally, Roeder CANNOT be allowed to damage us any further. He HAS to go, now. Whoever we get, its likely he'll be better than Roeder, who is an absolute cretin.

Not the point. Roeder has to go, that is step 1, and its vital. He's not even worth the paper and ink we used giving him his job offer. The fact that no-one is knocking on the door for the job is NO reason to keep a feckless, pathetic, lying little c*** in the job. If that happens then i can see the same thing happening again though. Shepherd will give someone within the club the job until the end of the season (or probably try his best to get Shearer), then they'll get some good results like what always seems to happen when a new manager comes in and he will "win the job". So you think we should keep Roeder???

Not the point. Roeder has to go, that is step 1, and its vital. He's not even worth the paper and ink we used giving him his job offer. The fact that no-one is knocking on the door for the job is NO reason to keep a feckless, pathetic, lying little cunt in the job.

But there is no denying that Roeder has FUCK all ability as a manger, has wasted our money, blown our season, and has totally fucked us.

Playing Moore in the first place was the biggest joke - a double joke, bearing in mind Carr! Roeder genuinely does not have ANY managerial ability.

Not hard when your competition is Parker, Dyer and Butt, mind. True, but then itd be silly to drop or sell him when hes one of the few players we have capable of controlling a football with any sort of technique and passing it accurately. Even Nobby's passing has gone downhill recently. The central midfield is just a mess when hes not playing, nothing comes out of it. At least when hes playing we get some form of control and possession from that area of the pitch. He has his faults, pisses me off when he stands around in a deep position (probably Glenn's tactic in having him sitting in front of the defence), but his positives far outweight his negatives because of the simple difference he makes by wanting the ball and looking to keep possession. If he didnt have any inconsistencies in his game, hed probably be playing for a CL side as a regular/squad player. That might turn out to be the case anyway if he moves on in the summer, but itd be nothing but frustrating if he left with us only ever giving him a handful of games in a true attacking midfield role, where more often than not hes looked like being a class act. Perhaps if we'd gotten rid of Dyer, and the misconception that he is a good attacking central midfielder, Emre could play. But i feel that the idiot Roeder values "graft" above craft, and so will keep playing Parker.

Not hard when your competition is Parker, Dyer and Butt, mind.

he has to run where others can walk Be nice of he did something worthwhile though. Waste of money. Worth keeping as a £20k a week squad player, but not as he is now. He's no first team regular. Tbf we've only seen glimpses of the real Emre under Glenda. If he played a bit further up and we didn't hoof it....There would be more chance for his end product tricks. Theoretical, though. Going off what we've seen, he's not ben good enough.

he has to run where others can walk Be nice of he did something worthwhile though. Waste of money. Worth keeping as a £20k a week squad player, but not as he is now. He's no first team regular.

Added to which: I hope he gets sacked, publicl humiliated, and never gets the chance to work at/ruin another club. Absolute cunt. the fool is the fool who employs the fool Not in question. But that does NOT detract from the fact that Roeder is an absolute lying, certinous, stupid, pathetic cunt of a manager.

proper supporters support the team of the place where they come from. Not true, some proper supporters support teams because of family members, my kids were always going to support Newcastle, regardless of where they were born. My nephew was born in the midlands but didnt have a choice in the matter, he was born black & white, we made sure of that. There's an argument that "come from" is a generational thing - but if i moved to Birmingham (as if), had kids, and THEY stayed there, had kids etc, i wouldn't expect my grandkids to be NUFC fans. If you are a brummie (which my grandkids would be) you should support a Birmingham team, in my opinion. You shouldn't necessarily be forced into supporting a team other than that of where you 'come from'. I know what you mean, but...I've been born and raised in Newcastle, but i support scotland as my national team. My dad's been taking me to scotland games since i was 5, so ive no choice in the matter. I'm a scotland fan, like it or not. Naturally, i would bring my son up as a scotland fan, despite him only being 1/4 scottish I respect that, but i don't get it. But hey, if football was THAT clear cut, no-one would ever have been stupid enough to defend that diseased, £85k a week, whining little w****** Dyer. you mean our best player? You need to check your interweb settings, mate. Its fucking up your screen, or something. I said DYER. Best player....<snigger>

What do we expect?? Roeder never even saw him play as far as we can tell. Shit managers will rarely sign top players. Shit clubs rarely get top managers We're an average club. But we hired a fucking terrible, indefensible manager. Our bad.

Wrong, imo.

What do we expect?? Roeder never even saw him play as far as we can tell. Shit managers will rarely sign top players.