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Guy has everything apart from good passing ability. Have a soft spot for him as he has always seemed to give 100% for us every game regardles if whether that was sufficient or not. Keep for back up!

And his mate nicky butt

Absolute nutcases

Remember, Philips knocked us back at the start of the window, it deffo looked like we were looking for a dynamic holding midfielder so that we could Bruno further upfield...

Right centre back, right wing and a N.10

Agree a lot with this. Most probably our expectations have now ratcheted up a couple of levels hence the rumblings about his "dip" in form.

Aye, when a joke goes on you need to know when to stop

For me it is just Klopp and his snide comments and moaning, really want to put one over him as he has gone way down in my opinion. Watching Liverpool play is entertaining mind you, can't take that away.

Fair enough. We shall just jave to agree to disagree then...

Do you not think that his petulant gesturing to his teamates has a negative effect? He never seems to stop complaining and that surely is a negative for those around him. Agree on his effort and footballing ability but just think that his body language is horrible

Flukes with regard to the then managers influencing results...

No, the end of last season was a dip in his form aswell, but he had the ankle problem to excuse it...

My own personal opinion on him as captain is: he can set the standard needed through his playing ability, but his actions and treatment of both his teammates and referees is lamentable, a real bad example!

The problem most of us are having is that we see that he is not at the same elite level he set last year. He just hasn't really got going this season, again we need to give him a chance to find his form.

The liverpool game will be about which side "clicks", both teams are unbeatable when on top form. Hard to call tbf...

The hope, according to most of the fanbase, was that we went there expecting the team to perform and perhaps scrape a result. The reality... is that Man City put a stranglehold on us from the first minute and we just could not escape it. They were far superior in nearly everything and their technical ability was unbelievable, they passed around our attempts at a press and used it very well in quick counters. Surprisingly, most of their good chances were long precision balls from Ederson over the top... oh, and of course Foden's masterclass. We are a work in progress and tbh we kept it quite tight and they didn't spank us which is about what we all really expected/wanted... It won't be too long before we really compete, patience and trust is necessary.

Watched the highlights and Manu seemed quite ordinary tbh. As for refs giving them decisions, we have had to put up with this since the early 90's... no change there!

At the end of last season he started to get caught with the ball, but he had the excuse of the ankle injury. It could also be that teams have worked out that he likes to hold on to the ball, small details in how to dispossess the opposition. Players will be studied to the nth degree... He needs to adapt or get out of the dip as soon as possible as he is the fulcrum of our team, what makes us tick!

Ref didn't book him and was awful whole game for me. We complain about the state of refs in The prem, but la liga is much worse. Really poor ...

Klopp has seriously lost the plot over the last year or so. Seems to explode (see drop to floor in a kiddie's tantrum against chelsea) every game now and can't seem to resist sly digs at every other team. Serious dislike for the bloke now, quite liked him when he first arrived...

For me a win or draw is paramount, just for the fear factor it will put into the majority of sides!

Loan with obligation to buy: Tierney would be great and would add serious pace to our back line. Him and Gordon linking up down the left!! Dribble

Liverpool looked very sharp attacking wise for 20-30 minutes and are very capable of doing damage. They looked a bit like villa in the second half, ran completely out of breath! If we keep it tight first half I reckon we could well do them.

Thought Liverpool were great for the first twenty minutes then their whole team dissapeared... Chelsea the better team overall. Like the look of jackson

Oooshya... what a melted cheese thebdefence of liverpool is