Jinky Jim

IMO if he did take the job I don’t think that has any baring on our takeover….more like he’s not risking the opportunity of a Premier job, when ours may be still months away from settlement.

Guillem Balague really bigging up Rafa for the Everton job….interesting to see how this pans out. Click on feed to get full list of twitter feeds from him on the subject.

Fair comment i suppose but the “Positivity Thread” was set up specifically “This thread is meant to be lighthearted and warming towards our potential takeover...after all there’s not much else positive it the worlds ATM.”……..I think you will find that most people enjoy going in there to get away from the deep discussion and arguments in this thread…..i guess its not everyone’s cup of tea, but it wasn’t set up for deep thinking and insider knowledge?

You’re right it was the WSJ not NYT…right country, wrong media ?

Casting my mind back to the start of it all….It was an article in the NYT that first got my attention to the possible takeover…..Then i believe an article broke in the Sun re the takeover and of course we all said “yeah but it’s the Sun”….then not much later all hell broke loose when details appeared at Company House…Anyway I’m going to be very positive about the latest news.

I might be wrong but I think “THE SUN” broke the story of the takeover in January.......... January 27th, 2020 10:43 am Newcastle’s proposed £340million (A$653m) takeover is reportedly “90 per cent certain” after a shell company created by Amanda Stavely has been registered to facilitate the deal. The Sun reported how Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is in talks to buy the club in a consortium including billionaire brothers David and Simon Reuben.

Total Bollocks…..Never trust the Turkish Media…..its worse than “teamtalk”

The Turkish media never get anything right….It’s all like “Teamtalk” or “Football365” over here.

You’re welcome to start your own “safe space thread”?

Thought this thread was for discussion whichever side of the takeover you’re on….its not exclusive to either thinking…..whilst the other thread is for the relief of us positive idiots to indulge in happy times?…..if we don’t use this thread for discussion of both attitudes then there is nowhere to go to indulge our opinions. I quite like this thread because I can view both viewpoints and make up my own mind on where I believe the takeover stands.

For our own sanity Whitley, think it’s time to pop over to the other thread and hope we’re not followed?

What’s your definition of “Soon”……if you mean next few weeks, then I would agree, but there is every chance of the takeover in the coming months….obviously depending on the outcome of CAT and/or Arbitration

The exact ruling is:- Immediately after touching the ball with the arm, even accidentally, the player scores a goal or creates a goal-scoring opportunity. In Bale’s case,apparently enough time lapsed before goal was scored. Strange as I’ve seen goals disallowed by handball in a build up well before the goal….suppose VAR decides what length of time this should be…..AGAIN in Bale’s case i would have thought that was a short enough time to disallow the goal…but hell what do i know

Even missed the goal

Flicking through all the matches on sky, and every time i reach our game, Fulham are passing the ball around…..I’ve not seen us in possession yet

I don’t normally wish us to be beaten in any games but if we win and Wolves,Palace and Southampton lose, we could be 12th……No way can Bruce be allowed to Brag about that.

Passed 2 Magpies picking at a dead Bird in the road….is this another good sign.

Check the league table....could feasibly be 12th on Sunday......Bruce would be unbearable if that happened.

Somehow, our lawyers must find enough evidence to show the judges that PIF are separate from the Saudi State…..if they do and we win the case the PL will have to either pass our takeover or employ another delaying tactic.

I think you will find that if the Saudi State were to control the club, then the issue of piracy would be uppermost and I believe that under the O&D test anyone involved in piracy would be rejected…as I’ve said before this is just hearsay anyway….bugger if I know what’s going on.

Thanks B-more Mag……a little bit more doubt about the outcome being positive. Particularly the line “What I don't think will cut it are unenforceable representations or promises that KSA hasn't exercised control before and won't in the future, if it actually has the power to do so.”……. I had read many months ago, earlier in the takeover, that evidence was produced by PIF, that by Saudi Law, it was a separate entity, and that the PL had refused to acknowledge it…of course this is just hearsay as we don’t know the intricacies of the takeover. I’m sure all will be revealed in the arbitration. Lets hope their arguments and evidence win the day.

In layman’s terms then, what are the 3 judges looking at in the Arbitration, and in your opinion, will having one judge possibly a bit pro PL, effect his decision after seeing the evidence.

Earlier this year QC Mark Pelling shone a light on what the arbitration dispute would entail, he said: "Concerned exclusively with the question whether the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia would be a 'director' under the Premier League's rules and not with the question (of) whether if Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was a 'director' it would be disqualified". The text of the letter makes it abundantly clear that the sole issue that the Premier League had decided - and then only provisionally - was that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia satisfied the definitions so that it was to be regarded as a director." The judge added: "The only dispute that can or will be decided in the current arbitration is whether this conclusion is correct". I might be misinterpreting that, but I read it as the dispute is whether the kingdom of Saudi would be a director…..in other words is PIF separate from the Saudi state…however I’m no lawyer and bow to professional judgements in this.

I can’t disagree with your view about Beloff…..but with Arbitration only dealing with “Whether PIF are separate from Saudi State”, I think the evidence will show this to be the case and even the most biased of Judges will have to concede this point……I would like to believe that despite his leanings towards the PL, his impartiality as a judge would overcome any personal ties and accept the evidence put in front of him as beyond favouritism……At least I hope so!

Mind you Arbitration is only about one issue,I’m led to believe, and that “is PIF separate from Saudi State”…piracy should only come into the discussion if Arbitration came down against this. The 3 judges have to decide if, based on the evidence, PIF is a separate entity, and again,I’m led to believe, there is plenty of evidence out there to confirm that is the case. If the judges agree with this point, then there should be no reason for the PL to block the takeover……we just have to hope the evidence convinces the judges on this count.