Mick

Got a link to where I said that?

Who said we should put a defender in the first team for the sake of it?

Where they are still untested teenagers, something which Van Aanholt was when we brought him in.

He'll not lose his pace.

Nice eyes, tidy hair. Good physique.

His passing ability is first class, he can make a pass others can't even see.

I hope not, he averaged 15 games and 5 goals a season for West Ham.

I was going to say take the kids but that would probably be classed as neglect or child cruelty.

On a serious note, go and see the reserves and kids if you have the chance, it's a good few hours.

Our ambition is to at least break even and hopefully make a profit. We'd prefer to do that in the Premiership but that plays second fiddle to breaking even which is our major priority.

Actually, you have to or you would never have defenders.

Kadar did come into the team at times and played well, he was ready for it and was even behind Fitz Hall in the pecking order.

To be honest, I like watching the kids and reserves, at least they aren't a bunch of over-paid prima donnas, and it’s refreshing to watch. It's a massive step up for kids to come through from the reserves and turn it on in the first team but we shouldn’t write them off when they are just starting off, I’m not saying that you’re doing that.

He prevented one of our own players from gaining much needed experience so yes, it was a complete failure.

Kadar was kept out of the team by a Chelsea reserve who was here on loan so should have had more games.

So just because you think one player looks out of his depth then they all will? It doesn't work that way although I'm not sure how well he'll do myself, I'll not write him off this early.

Ranger, Kadar and Vuckic.

Very good which has no bearing on Vuckic.

He's looked class for the kids and reserves but injury has hampered him at first team level, that and Hughton not wanting to play kids last season which is my biggest problem with how Hughton managed us.

I've yet to see anything in Vukcic to suggest this would be a good idea. Fail to see what the fuss is all about. ^^^ Above are examples of the 2 extremes fans hold towards youngsters at this club. Both are ridiculous. I don't think he's been the same player since his injury last season.

He had the ball in the box 4 times and had our best shot when he had no right to have even bothered the keeper because he had two defenders between him and the keeper. It was the only time that he was in a position to get a shot in on goal. Most of the time he was given the ball was in ineffective areas of the pitch because the midfield rarely supported the forwards. Ranger was given the ball once when facing goal and that was when he managed to trouble the keeper. If our forwards are going to have a chance then they need to be given something to work with and that means giving them something close to the box to run on to.

You can get one with Ashley on the back.

Best didn't go 13 months without a goal in the Championship for nothing, yes he scored a hat trick against the worst team I've seen for a while at our ground but he's reverted to type since. I'd rather give Ranger more time, I'm sure he'll get the goals if we give him the service. He's missed a couple of sitters but I think he made both of those chances himself. Ranger can get better with games, I don't think Best can and I thought that he was the least effective of the two last night and he's the more experienced which made no difference.

Why Best?