Mick

Ranger replaced the injured Shola, that was hardly a decision that Pardew made.

Who did the players say they'd won the game for?

I honestly don't think Hughton would have been criticised for the things that Pardew is getting stick over because I don't think he would have done half of them. And Pardew is supposed to be an upgrade so I'll judge him in that way. I’m not giving Pardew the slack I would give to the person who got us promoted last season and had given us some fantastic results this season.

I'm being naive, thanks, I think I'll take that as a compliment.

He had the biggest budget in that division and failed to make the play-offs which was his target and that was with the 10 points deduction. Even without the deduction they would have only scraped into the play-offs.

You're more concerned about losing Coloccini that Tiote. Coloccini is going to be no use if he's got no protection in front of him. As for the brave substitutions, what has he done that Hughton wouldn't have done?

It had nothing to do with hindsight; Tiote is a defensive midfielder and is as unlikely as Alan Smith is when it comes to turning a 2-0 deficit around. Replacing 1 man wasn’t going to change a game in which we probably had 7 or 8 players all playing below par.

I've seen no evidence of that.

Pardew had the highest budget in the division and his target was to reach a play-off position and he failed.

Tiote didn't finish the West Ham game, he should have been nowhere near Stevenage.

I also had a go at Hughton when he made a mistake, that’s life. The thing with Hughton was that he didn't have the flaws that were seeing from Pardew. I do not believe for one minute that we would have seen the display against Stevenage under Hughton and we wouldn’t be going into the mackem game thread bare. I have no doubt at all that we wouldn’t be going into the mackem game without Tiote if Hughton was still here.

I agree that some is OTT when that is taken on its own but when put into the context of how the game was going then I think he deserves all the stick he gets.

We'll see.

I don't think he'll learn either, at Southampton he was supposed to reach the play-offs and went for a Mickey Mouse trophy instead, missing out on the play-offs.

What agenda do people have and why?

It hasn't been missed that it was Tiote and not Pardew who made the challenge which got him sent off, it was Pardew who sent him on to the pitch in the first place. Without doing that he would have been free to play this weekend.

We are what we are and at this time we are reliant on Tiote and Pardew has screwed up.

I've just been through the match thread and only 2 people wanted Tiote to be involved, everybody else was against him playing any part in the game.

The only reason I could think of bringing him on would have been if we were trying to hold onto a lead, even then it would have been questionable considering we finished with 10 men against West Ham.

So knowing that you shouldn't risk your most influential player who is a defensive midfielder in a game that you're 2-0 down in qualifies you to manage Barcelona, brilliant but hardly reducing the number of applicants.

Plymouth have had 2 sent off.

Plymouth are down to 10 men.

Was that before or after Plymouth scored in the first minute tonight?

I can't find anything wrong with those quotes.