Roeder did get the best out of him, he was at his best when we finished 7th under Roeder. It was the season after, again with Roeder, when we had Duff that he went backwards and he played fewer games and produced less.
Even under Allardyce and Keegan he was better than Duff ever was and still only scored 2 less than he did in his best season and he played less games.