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the finance generated in the premiership now means that the very best players will come here as well as to the top Italian teams and Real and Barcelona. It used to be Italy where this happened albeit a long time ago, and the 2 Spanish teams. The players you list ie Torres, Vidic and Ronaldo are 3 great players, but so are Tevez, Drogba and Fabregas for instance. Of these 6 players, 2 are Spanish, 1 African, 1 Portuguese, I Argie and Vidic is ? [Czech - not sure of this it just escapes me]. Rooney is just as vital to manu as Ronaldo, as is Terry re Drogba and Gerrard re Torres to their clubs Its just a global game. I know England haven't qualified, and therefore played shite, but I think they could and should have done better. Foreigners v British players is a big debate, much bigger than this. He's a serb mate. I agree the English pool of players isn't half as bad as it's been made out. I believe you could pick about 3 first 11's that could have qualified for the euro's, shit managment is to blame (McClaren). However, i think the youth in this country is a huge problem. We have adequate youngsters compared to the likes of France and Brazil. I believe this again down to poor coaching and management at lowel levels. For me there's too much emphasis on physical (which is understand) rather that technical and mental.

I'd like KK to set a target for Barton to score a certain number of goals. The guys got it in him he just seems to have lost all his confidence in his attacking play. At home against a piss poor fulham side should be perfect. That's what I was thinking. Who do Fulham play in CM alongside Bullard? Danny Murphy, both hugely attacing minded players. Which suggests that there would be space for Barton in behind to link up with Viduka

I'd like KK to set a target for Barton to score a certain number of goals. The guys got it in him he just seems to have lost all his confidence in his attacking play. At home against a piss poor fulham side should be perfect.

Don't know why that is because he certainly produces in the champions league. I'm sure Man Utd couldn't give a fuck if he scores against everyone except the top four. Oh and just because he aint scoring, doesnt mean he isn't playing well.

Keegan aint the type to chop and change after a good performance. It would seem silly to change the side around after a good display, especially with a home fixture against Fulham. It's been so long since we won i've forgotten what it feels like TBH. A win against Fulham would take the roof off and go some way into keeping us up. Team Harper Beye Taylor Faye Enrique Butt Geremi Barton Owen Viduka Martins If that doesn't work bring on the Zog and Emre.

Henry is/was great in this league and sure the thought of having a player of that class next season would be mouth watering but i'd sooner go out there an find "the next henry".

On the other hand what the guy is trying to say is pretty good.

C'mon girls dont get touchy. Martins is a good striker atm. Not a great striker, not a crap striker. I believe he is our best striker also.

This is what i thought. It was vital we kept the point anyway and not do a "blackburn".

Martins best quality is that he does shoot. Regardless of whether he hits the target or not he always has at least 4 or 5 attempt on goal (which is 5 more than smith). On his bad days he couldn't hit a barn door, however, on his good days he's a match for any striker in this league. Two other qualities that go somewhat unoticed are a) his ability to head the ball, not only in hold up play but also whilst in front of goal (which created our goal last night) and b) the pressure he puts defenders under with his pace. On numerous occasions yesterday he forced a throw in or the opposition to concede possesion (like what he did to Riise the week before). In short, even when Martins isn't scoring he's a more consistant threat than any of our other players.

I'm kind of thankful i have to work tonight. Means i can just have a look at teletext every now and then but i'll get it sky+ for if we win.

I know what you think Dave but your wrong. Not ALL home fans are THAT quiet. I'm not disputing that SJP isn't anything like it used to be, what i am saying is that SJP is better than Anfield.

Need Liverpool to score, fancy them to mind. Torres or Gerrard to score a brace.

I also wish we'd signed Defoe but don't agree that he is THAT much better than Martins. Martins has been extremely miss managed, where as Defoe is in a good side.

The irony is laughable, but thanks. You've established that you know nothing at all about LFC nor the city that houses them. Well done. I was in Liverpool for approx 6 hours and i came across 2 people with drug problems and another that was suspicious. Does that happen in Newcastle? Does it shite, so fuck off. How did you know they had drug problems like? Where they just sat in a corner shooting up? Haha aye............

Yes, despite however many times you've been here you know nothing about either. Why would you want to know where I live? Whatever, I know more about Liverpool than I wish to know about the place. And I want to know where you live because I suspect that you are a daytripper, rather than a scouser. I see, and if I said somewhere like Knotty Ash you'd know enough about the place to know if I was telling the truth? Get real ffs, you wouldn't have a clue. Yes, despite however many times you've been here you know nothing about either club or city. Jog on man, get back to the subject. You are not from Liverpool, just one of the many glory hunters who tag onto the top four clubs because they choose to. Liverpool are a great club, but there is a contingent of their supporters who have their heads up their arses, constantly going on about how great they are and yet there home crowd can be as bad as it gets. And yes, the same can be said about Newcastle, but come on, what the hell do we have to shout about? If we were 3-0 up at home we would be making far more noise than the scousers did when we were there. This.

Thats all well and good and it's nice to create a friendly atmosphere but nowt to do with the thread.

You're entitled to your opinion, why would I try to change an opinion. I haven't been to SJP for about 6 years but it was very quiet. Away fans are always loud, it's a day out. Again, i WAS NOT REFFERING TO AWAY FANS. I still want a real answer. You and your fans reffer to them as "the great kop" or "the best fans in europe". If they are the best fans in europe then the standard is f****** abysmal. And no, i'm not saying that in europe, on your night, you can make the place a cauldron but that is no where near enough to be considered "great". It's easy to make a noise against your Milans or Barcelona. Try fulham or Bolton. You're right, it is difficult to get excited about some games. I can only apologise. I'm glad you have come to your senses. Now............... fuck off.

You're entitled to your opinion, why would I try to change an opinion. I haven't been to SJP for about 6 years but it was very quiet. Away fans are always loud, it's a day out. Again, i WAS NOT REFFERING TO AWAY FANS. I still want a real answer. You and your fans reffer to them as "the great kop" or "the best fans in europe". If they are the best fans in europe then the standard is fucking abysmal. And no, i'm not saying that in europe, on your night, you can make the place a cauldron but that is no where near enough to be considered "great". It's easy to make a noise against your Milans or Barcelona. Try fulham or Bolton.

The irony is laughable, but thanks. You've established that you know nothing at all about LFC nor the city that houses them. Well done. I was in Liverpool for approx 6 hours and i came across 2 people with drug problems and another that was suspicious. Does that happen in Newcastle? Does it shite, so fuck off.

Again scousers ignoring the original post. I was talking about noise. I have NEVER heard a Newcastle home crowd as quiet as Anfield was last saturday, regardless of the noise the away fans (us) were making. Sure we have had our off days but NEVER that bad. What possible excuse can you have for that?

Thats the wrong type of mentality. It should be Viduka and Martins up front. I'd be happy with any combination of the three.

What a wonderful even to bring us a little ray of sunshine to our lives. My two most hated teams get knocked out of the UEFA cup on pens and JJ missin the all important one for spurs. What a shame you soft southern wanker.

Geremi did more for the side when he came on than Duff did. I would mind Duff in the team as a replacement when were on form and winning games but he aint the guy to get us out of a rut.

Amen brother ..... oh wait i cant say that because i'm not black