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Yes, it's one of those places that i fancy us to get something but because Birmingham are in the shit as well, they will be up for it. I hope it will be an open game and our better players can produce. They will have the physical edge and will battle hard. But at the same time they must fear Martins and Owen, they'll have been watching us batter Blackburn so they know we can handle it and what we are capable of. We ARE the better team we just have to go their knowing it and pick the players who won't be scared to perform on the day. Hear hear to that.

They dont even rate him enough to play him every week either.

do we have any solutions? keegan is perhaps the most one dimensional manager there is...if plan a keeps failing we're relying on other teams being worse i also think we'll stay up as it happens, but i'm terrified what will take place if we do If we stay up? I'm just praying we will be in this league next year and i have no doubts we will be a very good side the year after. In all seriousness after watching the Blackburn game, we will score goals and we will win games.

What kind of thing is that to say? How the f*** could anyone have known back then that we would still not have won a game and would be 3 points off the bottom? Cos we're s****? I knew as soon as we didn't sign anyone in Jan we were f*****! Should have paid the going rate for Barnes! Also should have tried for Defoe plus a defender. All the muppets that said we shouldn't panic buy! I hardly think those targets were panic buys, just Mort f***** around for to long we ended up with nothing. If we do go down this season, how f****** stupid will we look for not trying to strengthen? Spend 10m in Jan or go down? I know which would cost us more. Can you give me Saturday's Lotto numbers please, smartarse. You 'knew' eh? Yeah, right. As the person who started this thread I think it is only right that I interrupt this argument and point out that in my opinion it wasn't "rocket science" to see that we were heading for freefall even back in January. You only had to look at the performances against the poorer sides to know we would struggle against the better sides when we played them. After that it was simple, we lose to top and middle table sides, struggle to pick up anything at home and away against the bottom sides and it doesn't take a genius to work out that we would be near the bottom of the table come May. I call it detached realism, I don't allow my love for the club to colour my football judgement, unlike some, who seem to think by going into denial it won't happen. So people were not allowed the opinion that we might improve under KK? (which we have in some ways) Really it does just sound like "I'm the best" attitude.

it's a fucken discussion board mate, wouldn't be much kop if all anyone posted was "howay the lads" would it? "WERE GOING TO GET RELEGATED!!!!!11111111" "Told you this would happen" "were s***, our board is s*** and our fans are s*** blah blah" That's not discussion, that's ranting and points scoring by some of our fans. The same bunch who believe negativity is the road to superfanism. i.e the more negative you are about everything to do with NUFC, the more a fan and knowledgeable football supporter in general they must be. BTW, this aint directed towards you mate, it just grinds my gears thats all. conversely that's what boils my blood about the "howay the lads" brigade, you can't discuss our problems 'cause it means you're not a real supporter (not directed at you i might add too) suppose me opening this up is utterly pointless in hindsight but i've been away since january and was reminded of the shite being spouted back then about our current predicament being impossible (even by spurs fans for christs sake!) relegation battles follow the same pattern EVERY year, for anyone think that derby/fulham/reading/brum etc...would not improve significantly on their points totals in january must be drinking something i wouldn't mind getting my hands on right now...our fixtures told their own story the whole thing reminds me of us blowing the 12 point lead under keegan...only at the other end of the table obviously, fixtures were weighted against us that season too but noone chose to see it til it was all over In that case i can understand your anger but i think you will appriciate the fact that noone is under any illusions anymore. We are in a relegation fight and i'd realy like our fans to talk about solutions not past problems. I personally still dont think we will get relegated but we shouldn't have even been talking about it.

I've just see the fixtures for next week and all the teams in the dog fight are up against teams that you would expect to beat them.

Who they got?

Yes, it's one of those places that i fancy us to get something but because Birmingham are in the shit as well, they will be up for it. I hope it will be an open game and our better players can produce.

Seing as i believe Derby and Fulham are almost certain to go down, who will be the third team to get relegated? Obviously we are in the mix but there are alot of other teams in contention. I'm going to take a stab and say Reading.

Probably the best comment so far. Completely agree.

it's a fucken discussion board mate, wouldn't be much kop if all anyone posted was "howay the lads" would it? "WERE GOING TO GET RELEGATED!!!!!11111111" "Told you this would happen" "were shit, our board is shit and our fans are shit blah blah" That's not discussion, that's ranting and points scoring by some of our fans. The same bunch who believe negativity is the road to superfanism. i.e the more negative you are about everything to do with NUFC, the more a fan and knowledgeable football supporter in general they must be. BTW, this aint directed towards you mate, it just grinds my gears thats all.

Re. Liverpool I always find the problem we have is that regardless of whether we are playing well, clubs like Liverpool, Everton and Spurs always try and raise their game because they believe that we are a "big club", therefore a good team (which we are not). When this happens these teams come out all guns blazing and normally beat us comfortabley. Where as if they were playing the likes of Bolton etc, they wouldn't be up for it as much. It's a right pain in the arse. Relagation is still a possibility not a probability. I'll see where we are at after Liverpool and Birmingham before making my prediction.

This board is seperated between two types of people. Those who are looking at the past and complaining about why we are in this situation and those who are trying to remain positive to help the club stay in the league. If you predicted that we would be dragged into the dog fight then good for you but please just get the "i told you so" out the fucking way because it is doing absolutely nothing to help.

This.

Who do they play midweek? I though champions league was midweek, now i'm confused?

I might be wrong but isn't Barton unavailable for the Liverpool game? Blessing in disguise, very in consistant passing yesterday. From brilliant to pathetic at times.

Dont care TBH. If he wants a contract he can prove he's worth one. Certainly should not be starting for us.

I think we will be comfortably beaten but ever hopefull we can pull off an upset. Harper Beye Taylor Faye Enrique Geremi Emre Milner N'Zogbia Martins Owen

Completely agree with your side. I think we should also look to get a little more quality on the right in the summer, should we avoid the drop.

He's quite happy to play a 20 year old left winger play in that position though? Rather odd but pleasing comments all the same.

I believe this closer to the truth that the twaddle in the other thread. Which i assume is the response your looking for.

Can someone please tell me how it is possible to destroy a team and not even score? "destroy" is a bullshit word anyway. How can someone without a brain type on a football forum? I'm not really sure but you manage it.

You are surely taking the f****** piss? surely you are? We played badly last week and got humped, we played 'well' today and got nowt. Makes you wonder who we can beat yet apparently there's still signs out there that we can stay up. Mind boggling You talk some shite mate. We played excellent football today, full stop.

We played better football for 80 out of the 90mins. They had spells but only on the break and the odd corner. Yes we didnt score but we did destroy them.

No he's right we were brilliant today. On another day we would have scored 5. The only thing between us and three points was a magnificent brad friedal. We got beat and i'm gutted by i cant complain about the performance.