Unbelievable

Dr Spectrum 1 - Brummie 0

Eduardo scores

Berbatov should have scored the third after a brilliant move..

Malbranque scores 2-0

the radio said it was another disgraceful decision. Tough call tbh.. Miles off. We should have had a pen at the end there. HT. COYB. There for the taking 2nd half. Take off you blue tinted specs Dr..

the radio said it was another disgraceful decision. Tough call tbh..

Dubious offside decision against Jenas in a one on one with the goalkeeper. This is getting hilarious..

Bennett's lost the plot completely this match it seems.

Should have been a pen instead of a caution for Jenas..

Chimbonda very close to a second yellow for dissent, although he was absolutely correct to protest..

Elano should have equalised..

Not just us getting played off the park by Arsenal reserves by the looks of it..

Its illegal. Want to talk harsh, talk about goals scored with hands from offside positions from freekicks won by diving. Sorry Spec, missed the goal, so can't comment, but the sending off was a little harsh in my opinion, although Malbranque should be off for his challenge..

Berbatov almost scored..

Malbranque gets booked for a two-footed challenge much worse than Zokora's..

Zokora sent off for a two-footed challenge that didn't even touch the opponent and with both legs on the ground.. A bit harsh if you ask me.

Depends on how many games he gets as a forward, but I'd be delighted with 5.

Couldn´t have put it better myself (God knows I tried.. ) mackems.gif You've been posting something entirely different to Apisith..... Maybe you should learn to read..

You present your opinion as if it were a fact. I think it´s complete nonsense. Of course a player´s transfer fee needs to be weighed in when rating their signing. N´Zogbia was a very good piece of business, partly because we found him on the cheap before other people realised his potential. Would he have been a good signing if we had paid Le Havre 30 million? Didn´t think so.. You can misinterpret the "presentation" of my posts as you like. Anyone with half a brain will understand I'm offering an opinion and that like everyone else when they post their opinion, it's true I believe what I write. Why else would I write something? Are you admitting that when you post you don't actually believe what you're writing? It's a fact that I think you post rubbish, but I hadn't realised you thought so too. By the way, "good business" is a different subject. Smith can overpriced and so be poor business at £6m, but he can still be a decent player for our team. I doubt you'll understand that either. I understand it but I just don't see it. Anyway, it's quite pityful you need to resort to abuse again..

Seeing as he seems totally unable to move into potential goalscoring positions or create such opportunities for himself I don´t think his possible lucidity in front of goal will serve him very often, if he even has it, of which there is very, very little evidence.

Couldn´t have put it better myself (God knows I tried.. )

You present your opinion as if it were a fact. I think it´s complete nonsense. Of course a player´s transfer fee needs to be weighed in when rating their signing. N´Zogbia was a very good piece of business, partly because we found him on the cheap before other people realised his potential. Would he have been a good signing if we had paid Le Havre 30 million? Didn´t think so..

We are not good enough and haven't been for a while, a new manager and a whole host of new players does not make a decent team. Time, money and some good management does. The likes of Everton and Blackburn who have good players and a good team have had a few years head start on us and even they might not make Europe, so to suggest that's an area we SHOULD be gunning for is delusional if you ask me. When I look at our squad and all the circumstances around the club and then look at the table I see a true reflection of the club we are - AVERAGE. At least a couple of notches below your Evertons and Pompeys. Must admit this is the same perspective that I see things from, I thought this was the general consensus withe the majority of the fans as well. People have adjusted their targets because of our mediocre start of the season. It´s a human thing to do, but that doesn´t make it valid. This is what people thought before the season started: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=43276.0 With our squad, management and means we should be targetting the top seven.

We are not good enough and haven't been for a while, a new manager and a whole host of new players does not make a decent team. Time, money and some good management does. The likes of Everton and Blackburn who have good players and a good team have had a few years head start on us and even they might not make Europe, so to suggest that's an area we SHOULD be gunning for is delusional if you ask me. When I look at our squad and all the circumstances around the club and then look at the table I see a true reflection of the club we are - AVERAGE. At least a couple of notches below your Evertons and Pompeys. To suggest we should not be targetting Europe is delusional. Take note: I´m not saying we should be in Europe next season per se, and this season will be a failure if we don´t make Europe, but as far as targets go I think that should be it. We should aim to overachieve, and in terms of transfer policy especially we should target players who can take us to the next level, not consolidate our current average position. This is even more true in light of our new ownership, who I can´t see not targetting a return to European football in the next few seasons. To get it this season would be a bonus, but seeing as it´s not completely out of reach that´s what we should be trying to achieve. Would we have been in Europe last season if we didn´t aim European qualification when Roeder took over..? It might not have been realistic at that point in time, but with a combination of determination and belief we did achieve it in the end..

I don´t necessarily disagree with this, but as we are rating our summer signings in this thread, I can´t see how people can rate what Smith has done for us as very positive, taking into account his pricetag and the fact he seems undroppable, even if this means playing him in midfield where he is totally useless. We could have done much better with what we spent on him, especially if we would have gone for a creative central midfielder capable of playing on the right.