Unbelievable

Seemed credible enough Aye right, pure jealousy that I have the amount of expertise in this area as Kaka (the poster) and you don't.

Seemed credible enough

He's not as tood as you're making out VI. Reading their forums there are quite a few Ajax fans who can't wait to see the back of him (too defensive minded for their liking).

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11913/9655822/ajax-boss-frank-de-boer-reveals-approaches-from-liverpool-and-tottenham

What a cunt. Worth 4b, but can't show common decency to his workforce or suppliers.

Who is questioning their credibility? Just seems akward that they would have/publish figures that have not been officially published in the accounts yet.

So the club presumably gave them these figures? Interesting!

How would Deloitte get the figures? Surely they've guesstimated

Yep. Him and Tuchel appear the standout candidates. I don't believe De Boer would even be remotely interested.

Is he not in a highly paid job somewhere in the Middle East anyway?

Make that 100m

I'm not complaining. I just can't see it work well or last long, if it were to happen, which I seriously doubt. If what mofo says is true, then can you see it end well if the stumbling block is final say on transfers?

Never a pen

Can't see him working in our "setup" at all unfortunately.

Not sure on Laudrup at all, but at least the football should be a damn sight better.

That's what you get when you hand idiots unprecedented 8 year deals in an attempt to revolutionise football.

What's the source for him wanting a year out of football anyway. Are you not confusing him with Garde? Sorry, but don't have any source. Didn't confuse him with Garde though. I know very little about Garde, but I follow Bundesliga very closely. Read it in some interview last summer/autumn, but don't remember where. The reason he quit was that he felt he had given Mainz everything he could, and that he didn't think he would be able to improve them anymore. He thought the club needed new energy and it was best both for them and him that he quit. But even if lots of clubs been interested in him, his agent have said he won't manage any new team until 2015 (so he might be interested already now, but it sounded more like he meant this summer when the settlement ends). Also Heidel (Mainz manager, more like a DoF in Bundesliga) said at the time Tuchel was going to take some time off. Fair enough. Hadn't seen it mentioned before.

Which is what those people are suggesting should happen, not what they believe will happen. No different to the people saying we should have a traditional manager who has the final say on transfers, when obviously we know that won't happen either. I doubt anyone here believes we can produce a great system that will bring in a very balanced quality squad. But that also doesn't mean the director of Football/head coach system is a bad thing, because that's not what stops us from getting that kind of squad, Mike Ashley and the constraints he puts on the kind of signings we can make stops us from getting that kind of squad and that won't change with or without the current setup in place. There's absolutely nothing in the Charnley statement to suggest that there will be a healthy relationship between the head coach, chief scout/DoF and MD/dealmaker, so I'm just astounded reading so many people's optimism regarding us openly stating that the new manager will have very little say in transfers. That is all. It's just a system devised for maximum profit in the transfer market, not one supporting what should be the main focus of a football club, i.e. the (first team) manager and his squad of players. There is if you read it with your eyes. In fact, that's pretty much exactly what he says. Whether or not it's true is another matter. Fair enough, if you choose to ignore that that specific statement is gradually broken down in the very next paragraphs. What he says boils down to: the head coach gets to state his wishes and we will then go out and look for the best deals we can find, which may not be what was requested but he needs to trust us to get it right some day. In the meantime we may decide to sell our best players if a good offer comes in, and he will just have to accept that and (again) trust us that we will replace them one day or other.

Great post Unbelievable. One thing Charnley talked about yesterday is the need to work together and for the head coach to identify his needs to Carr to source the player and Charnley to negotiate and finalise the signing. So the process should work like this, HC says I need a CB with good height, technically sound and has a bit of pace, Carr identifies a number of candidates, with approximate costs, the three of them get together and draw up a priority list based on available budget, best fit for the club and likely price. Then charnley goes to work on getting the player in start from the top of the priority list. As you say they've been guilty way too many times in the past of getting that priority list right, with a focus way too much on price rather than ability and/or trying to get the player for under the likely selling price. They need to learn from those mistakes. Not just that. They have been guilty time after time of not bringing in players for the positions where we were weak. Charnely speaks of trust in the relationship, and how they may have to wait for the next transfer window for a certain addition because there will be a better deal to be had. That could in theory be defended, but we have seen time and time again they will happily go three, four windows without cover in a position (right back), or without a first team player of the required ability (centre back, centre forward). I see no reason why that would change with a statement that only hammers home more firmly that the head coach has very little say in the makeup of his squad.

What's the source for him wanting a year out of football anyway. Are you not confusing him with Garde?

No one would argue that the way the club is run is basically for profit not for success, but that isn't going to change soon. At least if we can have an intelligent coach who can work with the players we target then we might see some coherent football, if not winning football. It will still be a massive step up from the cock-eyed stuff we've had with the Carr/Pardew relationship. Agreed TRon, we can at least hope that a new manager will bring a more appealing style of play. Nothing else will change, and the best we can hope for is that they are honest about their intentions with the club and some progressive young manager is prepared to put up with their bullshit.