Unbelievable

He wants to be hounded out of town along with the rest of them for that

That article is absolutely rank. From the translation of the Garde quote to suggesting Hull are guranteed safety if they win to the Carver quotes to the post mortem bit. What the flying fuck

Interesting theory brummie, but I'm afraid this is (yet again) a case of utter incompetence rather than outright malice, although Mike Ashley is definitely no stranger to the latter.

That can't be real surely?

I would not be at all surprised if there has been interest for the club in recent years, but Ashley has been unwilling to negotiate a reasonable deal. What makes people think Ashley would sell if he could? He's onto an absolute winner here: the club is profitable, revenue is increasing and SD is getting continued global coverage. Maintain the status quo and he will happily be here in another 20 years imo.

Yey! We survived another season so we get a chance to survive another season again next year. Hurray!! Woop woop. Against the other option of "yay, we've been relegation so we get the chance to possibly come back up and then have the chance to survive again"? What do people want? Us to be a Championship club forever? With the squad we have, we're not going to be fighting for anything near the top 8 spots. I think people need to get realistic and realise this - it is going to take major improvements for this to happen. People have short memories, we were a Championship club not long ago - our club has been murdered under Ashley for years. We're not going to be magically fixed and healed the day he leaves. On this day, we are fighting relegation - forgive me if I am happy that we do. Stay up and absolutely nothing changes - guaranteed. Manager, owner, coaches, atmosphere, players, ambition - nothing will change. More of the same in perpetuity. Go down and something positive could unfold. Wouldn't mind rolling the dice and finding out tbh. Taking a few steps back to clean the dogshit off our shoes wouldn't be the worst thing in the world imo. The club will be just fine in the long term, just needs a few uncomfortable years to get rid of it's parasite first. I agree, nothing will change if we stay up. That's from the top, everything you listed is down to the tosser in charge of our club. But going down, is more likely to have a negative effect than positive. When we went down last time, did anything change? Did anything change when we came back up? No, because the same fat tosser is in charge. Would Ashley sell if we went down? Definitely not, he'd make a bigger loss and he's a business man that only cares about his pocket. He wants £x amount for us and will not sell until he gets offered it. There is no way anybody would pay that for a Championship team. Even if we go down, we protest, we burn down Ashley's home - we can make him want to sell, but we cant make somebody buy us. We've in effect been for sale for the past 3/4/5 years, if Ashley was given an acceptable offer for us at any point he'd have snatched their hand off. But he hasn't. The only possible positive I can see from going down, is the cheaper games and fact we might win a few. Completely understand where you are coming from, but I guess if we all had the same opinion it'd be boring. Fascinating stuff. Source? Didn't say it was a fact, matter of opinion - only time will tell on that one. You didn't just make some assumptions about the future, you also made some pretty definitive statements about what has or has not happened in the past few years, with no substance to back it up it seems.

Yey! We survived another season so we get a chance to survive another season again next year. Hurray!! Woop woop. Against the other option of "yay, we've been relegation so we get the chance to possibly come back up and then have the chance to survive again"? What do people want? Us to be a Championship club forever? With the squad we have, we're not going to be fighting for anything near the top 8 spots. I think people need to get realistic and realise this - it is going to take major improvements for this to happen. People have short memories, we were a Championship club not long ago - our club has been murdered under Ashley for years. We're not going to be magically fixed and healed the day he leaves. On this day, we are fighting relegation - forgive me if I am happy that we do. Stay up and absolutely nothing changes - guaranteed. Manager, owner, coaches, atmosphere, players, ambition - nothing will change. More of the same in perpetuity. Go down and something positive could unfold. Wouldn't mind rolling the dice and finding out tbh. Taking a few steps back to clean the dogshit off our shoes wouldn't be the worst thing in the world imo. The club will be just fine in the long term, just needs a few uncomfortable years to get rid of it's parasite first. I agree, nothing will change if we stay up. That's from the top, everything you listed is down to the tosser in charge of our club. But going down, is more likely to have a negative effect than positive. When we went down last time, did anything change? Did anything change when we came back up? No, because the same fat tosser is in charge. Would Ashley sell if we went down? Definitely not, he'd make a bigger loss and he's a business man that only cares about his pocket. He wants £x amount for us and will not sell until he gets offered it. There is no way anybody would pay that for a Championship team. Even if we go down, we protest, we burn down Ashley's home - we can make him want to sell, but we cant make somebody buy us. We've in effect been for sale for the past 3/4/5 years, if Ashley was given an acceptable offer for us at any point he'd have snatched their hand off. But he hasn't. The only possible positive I can see from going down, is the cheaper games and fact we might win a few. Completely understand where you are coming from, but I guess if we all had the same opinion it'd be boring. Fascinating stuff. Source?

They won't appoint Carver. Last time we got too close to danger, Ashley forced Llambias out and brought in Kinnear. He will react to this season, and there are no long terms contractual commitments to the manager this time. NSIS

They won't appoint Carver. They absolutely will like I dont think they will. guess we'll have to wait and see. They haven't even started working on an alternative now Schteve has turned us down. No doubt in my mind as to what will happen.

They won't appoint Carver. They absolutely will like

Shit FK

Get in

Ayoze

That lineup

We're staying up

Bye bye PL

As I said the other day, everything about this Carver situation is just too grotesque to even seriously comment on.

This is what four years of working under Pardew will do to you. Must spend 90 minutes thinking of what excuse to use next.

Scary stuff.

Wouldn't go that far like

Some excellent posts Gino14 and Kasper. Ref Kasper's point, you often get that sort of in depth tactical discussion from Dutch managers too. You can watch a Frank de Boer post match interview and you honestly couldn't say if they had won or lost. It's always as for him the execution of a game plan is more important than the eventualities (refereeing decisions, individual mistakes, opponents' flashes of brilliance, etc.) that happened in the particular game, and I think this is what ultimately decides how seasons pan it. FdB is a bit extreme in this regard as he seems practically unable to express satisfaction, but I think it's how managers over here approach the game more often than not.

where did he live before coming here, Rotterdam?! cheeky f***er! Rotterdam is a shithole. Wahey man! Watched the interview now. Not sure why they picked these comments like that. In context it's nowhere near as bad and he seems quite appreciative of the lifestyle, just says that it took some getting used to.

Interview with Daryl Janmaat here (in Dutch): http://www.omroepwest.nl/sport/04-05-2015/hagenaar-daryl-janmaat-over-zijn-overgang-naar-newcastle-%E2%80%98toen-ik-hier-aankwam-dach It's not very flattering for Newcastle. I'll translate the quotes in the accompanying text: "When I first arrived here I thought to myself: 'What the hell am I doing here?' Everything was so dreary/drab. I live 20 minutes from the stadium in a nice, quiet area. I'm used to it now, and can even enjoy it somewhat." The video (I haven't watched it) is a former Dutch soap "star" interviewing him. Funnily enough I worked with the lad's father 15 years ago. Small world.

Wouldn't surprise me.